REQ: 1841 samuel smith wood, derbyshire

[janan]

Might be worth checking this fellow out in 1861

Samuel Smith born Ripley 1832 livng County Durham

Cheers Jan

[janan]

And 1851

Samuel Smith born Ripley 1828 living Durham

Jan

[billybones]

Hi.

It was quite common in the 19th and 20th century for a child to be given the mothers maiden name as a second christian name. It occurs in every generation in my family.


Regards

Tuppie   

Thanks, Tuppie.  Yes, and the Cassandra name goes right through to my own mother.  Whilst not unique, I wish all names were as semi-unusual.  In Wales I am doomed by Thomases, Evanses, the usual, with very ordinary Christian names too, but it works out somehow in the end.

[billybones]

Hi
Yes Mary is 7, Jediah is also out of order
Possible parents for Harriet living nextdoor

John Smith 55 Coal Miner
Hannah 60
Both born in county

and further down page
Denby Common
John Wood 65 Coal Miner
Mary do 60
Jediah do 20 Coal Miner
Ann do 25
Frances ?Baelzey 25 Laundress
All born in county

Cheers jan

Again, Jan, many thanks.  I believe this will prove to be very good.  I think the further back things go the less movement around there was and railways changed everything.

[billybones]

And 1851

Samuel Smith born Ripley 1828 living Durham

Jan

I'll look into him and the 1861 you mentioned.  That first batch of children are almost totally consistently credited to Co Durham, though mentions of Gatehead and Sunderland and whatever create mild inconsistencies.
Who knows -- one day he may even have registered a child.  I have a maximum of two I know of left to check, and if I could find an as yet unknown first who may have died, maybe he got superstitious after that.  Bit of a wild theory, but I acnnot imagine why he'd ignore the requirement so often.

[janan]

Hope you sort things out - you'd think Cassandra Wood born in Wales would be easy enough to track down so maybe you're right he didn't register the children. Other possibility is that he and Mary Ann weren't actually married and the children were registered in her surname 
Happy hunting Jan

[billybones]

That's actually a fair theory to consider.
I think though that a search on Cassandra/Casandra/Casandera/Cassie/Cass/Sandra etc did not show any likelies.
My previous, frustrating browsing around for Samuel Wood also showed one called "prisoner" somewhere.
Goodness knows.  But I reckon the information I have received from yourself and user Tuppie will give me a few hours of more looking and I think a few mysteries stand solved right now.
I thank you both and if ever I can return the favour I surely will.

[janan]

Let us know how you get on Billy.
Apologies if you already know this but FreeBMD and Ancestry don't have full registers you would need to search somewhere like 1837online which is pay per view.
Happy hunting
Jan

[billybones]

Thanks, Jan.  I was not aware of their limitations.
I think that thanks to the weekend's help from yourself and tuppie I have finally managed to locate Samuel Smith Wood at 1851 a few years before his marriage.  He is lodging with a family name I cannot connect to, and he is down as Samuel Smith -- no Wood.  I'd expect this means he (a) said Samuel Smith Wood and the enumerator felt there was not enough room or did not hear him (b) for some reason he temporarily rejected the name Wood -- fell out with Wood senior? (c) wanted to hide his full name for whatever reason -- he does move around a bit so whether he was early union "trouble" and wished to hide his name I can only guess.  But it's pretty certainly him.
All this is good; things are developing; and thanks again.
I'll check 1837 site to see if they throw his name out and then deide on pay-per-view after that.