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James family from Grosmont, Monmouth
« on: Wednesday 07 December 05 08:22 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help please?

The IGI has a record for Sabina James born in Grosmont, Monmouth.  I have a copy of Sabina's marriage certificate but there are no clues as to where she came from.  Both the IGI record and the marriage certificate give the same name for Sabina's father.  I do not want to assume that they are the same person.  Any ideas of what I can do next?  I have details of the father's profession.  Is there a directory which would list names and professions of those living in Monmouth between around 1820 and 1830?

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Re: James family from Grosmont, Monmouth
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 10:49 GMT (UK) »
If you post the details on here, then maybe we could find some info for you.


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Re: James family from Grosmont, Monmouth
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 18:46 GMT (UK) »
All I know is that the Sabina James mentioned in the IGI was christened on 17 August 1828. 

The father of the Sabina James from my family was a chandler.  On the 1845 Griffiths Valuation of Ireland, John James is shown as living in Ireland.  Sabina was married in Dublin in 1853.

I would be interested to know if there was a John James, a chandler, living in Grosmont at the time of Sabina's birth.

 






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Re: James family from Grosmont, Monmouth
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 19:05 GMT (UK) »
There is a John James aged 50yrs in Grosmont in 1841.  He is listed as a farmer with what appears to be children, Jane 15, Ann 14, Sarah 9 and Isabella 7.



Can't find a Sabina James listed.
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Re: James family from Grosmont, Monmouth
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 19:12 GMT (UK) »
Hello
The Sabina at Grosmont on the IGI was the daughter of
John and Jane. There are various other children born to
a couple of the same name in the time period,including Isabella and Sarah.
Per the 1841  Grosmont census John had no daughter Sabina living with the family. John was a Farmer and was in Grosmont at the time of the  1851 and  1861 census enumerations He was a widower in 51 and 61.I cannot trace a Sabina in Monmouthshire or the surrounding counties in 1841.

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Re: James family from Grosmont, Monmouth
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 20:12 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your help.

It does not appear that John James from Monmouth is my ancestor but before I eliminate this lead, I would like to find out what became of the Sabina James from Grosmont.

I have a marriage certificate and death certificate for Sabina James but have no idea of her origin.  The death certificate suggests that she was born around 1828-1830.  There do not appear to be any other records of a Sabina James from the UK on any of the databases which I have searched.

Any further ideas would be very much appreciated.




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Re: James family from Grosmont, Monmouth
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 December 05 18:41 GMT (UK) »
 :D Hi - My James family connection is above Grosmont on the hill at Garway where James James married Margaret Beach 27 Dec 1830, not sure where James came from.  Had a look around and found John James married Jane Edmunds 23 June 1819 in Grosmont, and it looks like Sabina was one of a list of girls.
1820 - 26 Nov, Mary James baptised Grosmont
1822 - 24 Sept, Eliza James baptised Grosmont.
1824 - 19 Sept, Jane James baptised Grosmont.
1826 - 11 June, Ann James baptised grosmont.
1828 - two dates, possibly baptised twice?
           9 March says Sabin James, 17 Aug, Sabina James
 baptised Grosmont.
1830 - 15 Aug, Sarah James baptised Grosmont.
1833 - 18 Jan, Isabella Abigail baptised Grosmont.
1834 - 11 Dec, Louisa Martha baptised Grosmont.

There was also an earlier Sabina James baptised 13 April Grosmont, daughter of William and mary James.
                                Cheers Fred