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Who was Daniel Patrick Whelan ?
« on: Wednesday 07 December 05 09:34 GMT (UK) »
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I am searching for the family of Daniel Patrick WHELAN born circa 1900, or earlier.

According to family legend, he was studying for a Medical Degree in Dublin sometime after the Easter Rebellion (1916).  However, he got caught up in 'the troubles' and was involved in the bombing of a Post Office.  He was subsequently arrested, escaped to England, and through forged papers. changed his identity. He  married an English girl in 1937 and raised a family, all under this assumed name.  The family then emigrated to Australia circa 1954, and his true identity only emerged before his death in 1968.

I have written to Dublin University, but they have no record of him there as a student.  Would anyone know if there's likely to be a record of his arrest anywhere ?

Any ideas on where to search next would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Who was Daniel Patrick Whelan ?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 12:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi
The following link is interesting, but sorry, couldn't see any mention of your Daniel Whelan. And if you've already seen this, sorry!
Will keep looking though; my own area of research , in the Galtee mountains area of co.Limerick/Tipperary/Cork, was a hotbed of rebels, so something may yet turn up!

Cheers,
Mags

http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/history/east1916.html
Bailey - co.Limerick, Kilbeheny;co. Tipperary, Ballyporeen parish
King - co.Limerick, Kilbeheny parish
Moher - co.Tipperary, Ballyporeen parish
Farrell - co.Tipperary, Coolagarranroe, Skeheenaranky
Fitzgerald - ditto

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Re: Who was Daniel Patrick Whelan ?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 15:49 GMT (UK) »
 :) :)

Many thanks for that Mags - what a terrific read !!

I've contacted the Connaught email address, and the Celtic Knot - so hopefully someone just may be able to help.

Thanks again

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Re: Who was Daniel Patrick Whelan ?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 15:54 GMT (UK) »
Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King

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Re: Who was Daniel Patrick Whelan ?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 16:06 GMT (UK) »
 :) :)

Thanks Annie, but have already read this.

I suppose what I'm really looking for, is the birth of any Daniel Patrick WHELAN who might fit the bill, or any Census Return where he could have appeared. Very difficult, I know, when neither his parents nor place of birth are known.

Thank again

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BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

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Re: Who was Daniel Patrick Whelan ?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 December 05 23:18 GMT (UK) »
Could there be  more than one place in Dublin he might have studied medecine - maybe something like the Royal College of Surgeons, or even a hospital with a medical centre? Or was there only the university, Trinity College or Univ. College?

Just some musings....

Mags
Bailey - co.Limerick, Kilbeheny;co. Tipperary, Ballyporeen parish
King - co.Limerick, Kilbeheny parish
Moher - co.Tipperary, Ballyporeen parish
Farrell - co.Tipperary, Coolagarranroe, Skeheenaranky
Fitzgerald - ditto

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Re: Who was Daniel Patrick Whelan ?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 December 05 01:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

I have looked in " A Dictionary of Irish Biography " Third Edition.
Edited by Henry Boylan. Publishers Gill & Macmillan Ltd. 1998.
There is no mention of him in this edition.

This site may come in handy if you are able to establish the county
where Daniel's family lived.  http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php

Chris

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Re: Who was Daniel Patrick Whelan ?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 December 05 02:16 GMT (UK) »

Hi Mobo!!

I don't know if this is connected to your Daniel .... but I thought I'd tell you anyway!! He was travelling with Nora Whelan both Single they are listed on the Manifest - but it is noted he did NOT sail - she did!!

Name   Daniel Whelan
DOA    1 Nov 1923
Age         25
Origin    Quilty Ireland
POD    Cobh and Queenstown Ireland
Ship    Franconia
POD    Boston Massachusetts
Name of friend   Father John Whelan

Roll #   288

Annie
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Re: Who was Daniel Patrick Whelan ?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 09 December 05 07:09 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ;D

Yes Mags, I too think he may have been studying at a place other than Univerisity College, and thanks Christopher & Annie for the info, I'll keep it on file for future refererence.

This situation is such a 'needle in a haystack' thing, I think the only way I'm really going to find him, is through the record of his arrest.   But where I'll find such records, I don't know ??

Thanks again.

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