1841 - PUDNEY - Wrabness or Lt Baddow

[Richard Knott]

James (bc 1792) and Sarah (bc 1801) Pudney were married in Wrabness in 1815, but were in Lt Baddow by 1851. Were they in either in 1841?

[cep]

1841 Little Baddow   HO107 325_02 4 p1

Cuckoos
James Pudney, 50, Ag Lab
Sarah Pudney, 40
Edward Pudney, 13, Ag Lab
Charles Pudney, 10, Ag Lab
Daniel Pudney, 9
George Pudney, 6
Susannah Pudney, 2

All b. Essex

Seen at Wrabness:

Mary Grace Pudney, 20, Teacher


Regards   CP

[Richard Knott]

Thank you.

[cep]

Also at Little Baddow:

HO107 325_02 4 p2

William Pudney, 15, Ag Lab

HO107 325_02 11 p16

Benjamin Pudney, 15, Male Serv, with William Ratcliff, Salesman


Regards   CP

[sojourner]

I'm brand new to RootsChat and I don't yet know the etiguette. So, if I boob PLEASE forgive and advise me..  Can you tell me where I can access the John & Sarah Pudney 1815 wedding information etc in Wrabness. I've got them and their family pretty well tracked out from 1841 in Little Baddow onwards. Thanks in anticipation. Sojourner.

[Richard Knott]

Welcome to Rootschat.

I have just looked through my notes and, at the moment, cannot see where I found the marriage. I have found a letter from Essex County Council dated 25 Jan 1985 in which I appear to have paid £2 for an entry in the baptismal register:

Wrabness
Elizabeth, daughter of James Pudney, labourer and and his wife Sarah of Wrabness; 23rd July 1815

I can also find a note where I have recorded:
7th Feb 1815  Wrabness
James Pudney and Sarah Scorf

This may also have come from E.C.C. - I'm not sure - but I do remember suspecting that Scorf was a misreading of another name (such as Scott).

I also have some notes suggesting that the James (d1860) and Sarah (d 1881) recorded in Little Baddow from 1841 until 1881 are not mine, so I'm not sure why I posted my original request.

All this is not much use to you; I will look a little more over the next few days. It would be useful to swap information.

Richard

[sojourner]

Richard,

Thank you for coming back to me so quickly. I will be extremely interested in anything that you can find and exchange any information concerning the family.

Respects

Sojourner

[Richard Knott]

The Little Baddow Sarah consistently gave her date of birth on censuses as 1800/01 which makes it unlikely that she married in Feb 1815. Little Baddow is also about 40 miles away from Wrabness. The birth certificate of her youngest child (Susannah in 1838) would show Sarah's maiden name, and so clear things up.

There are two James Pudneys living much closer to Wrabness in 1841 and 1851. One, in Great Bromley, died in 1868 aged 78 as a farm labourer, but is described in the 1851 census as unmarried.

The other, who died in 1854 in Little Clacton aged 77 as a husbandman, was an ag lab, age 60-4 in 1841, and an ag lab pauper, age 70 in 1851. In 1851 he was a widower, living with a widowed Elizabeth Tillett who I assume to be his sister as they were born in the same place (Thorpe) and in 1841 she had a four year-old James Pudney living with her and her husband.

At the moment therefore the Little Clacton James is my best bet, but nothing is proved. I have yet to find Elizabeth Pudney in 1841. As she married in the Tendring area in 1844 and again in 1848 (Manningtree) I would expect to find her there.

Richard

I have sent you a PM.

[Richard Knott]

I've just come across this old post so, to tidy things up:

There are at least four James Pudneys of about the same age, occupation and place. The first three are in all the relevant censuses.

1. Little Baddow. James bc 1792 Copford; d 1860.
2. Little Clacton. James bc 1781 Thorpe; d 1868 (age 78). Labourer.
3. Great Bromley. James bc1792 Halstead; d 1854 (age 77). Husbandman.
4. (Mine). Ramsey. James bc 1794; d 1832 Ramsey. Husbandman.

Number 4 had at least four children (Elizabeth 1815 Wrabnes and James 1821, Susan 1825, George 1828 in Ramsey).

I have the death certificates for numbers 2 and 3 and am happy to pass them on to any descendant.

Richard