Dwyer what part of Ireland is it from?

[Ticker]

Hi Pettsy

As Christopher has said it's impossible to be sure of someone's place of birth from their surname - if it was I should have been born in Mayo (rather than Yorkshire!  ).

What we can say is where a name originated or was particularly prevalent.  I understand that the Dwyer family was common in Tipperary and the Mc Manus (or Mac Manus) family were possibly from Fermanagh.  Fermanagh is of course next to Tyrone which Christopher referred to so it could be either.

I'm sure this won't help (sorry) but thought it worth mentioning just in case.

Best wishes

Ticker

[pettsy]

I understand it is impossible to tell where someone is from by their name, as my great gran was born in Chelsea, London (with an Irish name  ) but I am so desperate to find out which part of  Ireland they were from, any clues.

Thank you for your message, as any piece of info I receive is very helpful, now I know about Tipperary, it may help in my research.

Perts

[Ticker]

Hi Pettsy

I usually suggest the following sites, some of which may be of more interest than others for your surname search.  They make help to direct you to an area where the names were most common.

The General Register Office of Ireland

The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland

Irish Roots

The National Library of Ireland

Irish Genealogy

Genealogical Society of Ireland

Irish Ancestors

National Archives of Ireland

If you use the second last one (in bold) and search for the surnames it will show you where the name was most popular in the 1850s/1890s.  You should see it confirms the Tipperary link for Dwyer.

I hope this helps.

Please let us know what you find.

Best wishes

Ticker

[heywood]

Hi Pettsy
it's me again - please don't get your hopes up!
Do you know for sure that Thomas and Jane were born in Ireland and were not just of Irish heritage.
There is a Thomas and Jane whcih sometimes fits the bill andf others times does not.
I am sending a pm because there is such a lot of names for you.
Apologies if you have already been down this route!
Heywood

[Christopher]

Hi Pettsy,

Here is a site that may help you. Keep your eye on it as it is updated regularly. http://members.webone.com.au/~sgrieves/irish_burials.htm

Good Luck with your search

Chris

[pettsy]

Thank you Ticker,
Lots of links to keep me busy  I will let you know what I find out, fingers crossed.

Heywood I have sent you a pm.
My grandfather always said his mother was a " Little Irish lady" but we since found out she was born in Chelsea, London, so we presume her parents were Irish.
I cannot find their marriage at the FRC I looked from 1857 - 1864 (just after Thomas was born) but I will look again at other dates.
I cannot find Caroline b1876 on any Cenus with her parents either.
I have her birth, marriage and death certificate. But only can find her on the 1901 census 

Christopher, thank you, I have spotted 5 Dwyers on there, so I will keep on looking.

Thanks

Pettsy

[Christopher]

Hei Pettsy,

Here are loads of McManus marriages in Ireland
http://members.aol.com/manus/mcmmar01.htm

This McManus Directory includes a lot from Ireland
www.dallas.net/~mcmanus/mcm_dir.htm

Best Wishes, Chris

[JAP]

Pettsy,

Probably the best site for getting an idea of the occurrence of a particular name in Ireland is the free surname search at:
http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/

And yes - it does confirm that DWYER was commonest in Tipperary, and MCMANUS in Fermanagh.

JAP
PS:  Sorry Ticker - I've just noticed that you mentioned that site in your list.

[JAP]

Pettsy,

As far as I can see, there is really no hard evidence to indicate that either of Caroline's parents came from Ireland.

I've searched and searched the censuses but without any luck.  Your people - if they are in the England and Wales censuses - are very well hidden indeed.

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As you say, it probably would be worth getting Thomas's birth certificate - or at least see if you can find it in the indexes.  It would be good to be able to confirm that he actually was born in Chelsea and ca 1863.  And to see his parents' names and father's occupation.

JAP