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William COOPER - Langham
« on: Wednesday 04 January 06 23:00 GMT (UK) »
i am looking for William Cooper b c1803 Langham Suffolk.

He married Harriet Canham 1833 at South Cove. I have found him on the 1861-1881 census in South Cove but i am unable to find his birth.

i have checked the LDS but im not sure what district Langham would come under in 1803.

any help would be appreciated. :o
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Re: WILLIAM COOPER LANGHAM
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 January 06 23:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cavvy

not able to help with the birth record  :( - but thought you would like the 1851 Census entry, viz:

HO107/1803 folio 872 p10
Parish of South Cove
No. on schedule 27

William Cooper / head/ Mar / 51 / Ag Lab / Unknown
Harriet Cooper /wife / Mar / 44/ / Suffolk Ipswich
Mary Cooper /dau / / 11 / / Suffolk South Cove

William's place of birth is clearly written as unknown in this census.

 I looked him up in the 1861, 71 & 81 censuses and note that in these he is listed as born in Langham (in 61 & 71) and Glenham in 81!!!
I have also noted some variation in his age (51, 55, 68 & 79 years in the censuses 1851 to 1881).
Not quite sure what I'm trying to say - other than need to check the parish records across quite a few years and at Glenham as well as Langham....

sorry I couldn't be more help
Rosemary :o
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Essex: Allison/Alliston, Claydon, Lambert, Pettican, Willsher, Mead, Butcher
Hampshire: Boddy, Webb, Yatman
London & adjacent: Boddy, Cormack, Nevill, Shephard, Westerman, Palmer
Norfolk: Surflen
Suffolk: Adams, Birt, Pooley, Smythe (Stanton & Badingham), Ward, Wham
Sussex: Grinsted, Pooley, Tillstone, Batcock, Bartlett, Peters
Warwickshire: Shephard

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Re: WILLIAM COOPER LANGHAM
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 January 06 00:24 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for your help.

ive only recently started looking into the Cooper family, my connection is Blowers, but thanks you it gives me something to get on with.
john o'connor, connor, connors etc kilkenny
sarll family lowestoft suffolk and barking essex
palmer family lowestoft suffolk and ramsgate kent
caruana family valetta malta
blowers lowestoft and suffolk
cooper south cove
canham ipswich

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Re: WILLIAM COOPER LANGHAM
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 January 06 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Cavvy

my other thought is - after experiencing this myself - are you sure that it is the same William Cooper in all the censuses?

I suppose I am most suspicious of the 1871 (which most clearly gives his place of birth as Langham), where his wife is now Hannah rather than Harriet. Have you shown he was widowed & remarried? I guess it could also be a transcription error by the enumerator!

Also - do you know how far apart Langham (bp 1861 & 1871) & Glenham (bp 1881) are - are they close enough that its reasonable for someone to give these as alternatives for place of birth?

what do you think?
Rosemary
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Essex: Allison/Alliston, Claydon, Lambert, Pettican, Willsher, Mead, Butcher
Hampshire: Boddy, Webb, Yatman
London & adjacent: Boddy, Cormack, Nevill, Shephard, Westerman, Palmer
Norfolk: Surflen
Suffolk: Adams, Birt, Pooley, Smythe (Stanton & Badingham), Ward, Wham
Sussex: Grinsted, Pooley, Tillstone, Batcock, Bartlett, Peters
Warwickshire: Shephard


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Re: William COOPER - Langham
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 January 06 16:54 GMT (UK) »
i believe the Hannah on the census is a transcription error as Hannah 1856 who is living with them is Harriets dau Hannah b1836 who is my gggrandmother.

i have located Langham but im not sure where Glenham is.

Ill check to see where it is.

Many thanks for your help.
 :D
john o'connor, connor, connors etc kilkenny
sarll family lowestoft suffolk and barking essex
palmer family lowestoft suffolk and ramsgate kent
caruana family valetta malta
blowers lowestoft and suffolk
cooper south cove
canham ipswich