Samual Joseph COX of Wycombe?

[Valda]

Daniel may or may not be the father of Samuel - you have to consider the possibility. Samuel does not name his father as Daniel on marriage, but that might be just because he never knew him so did not know his name, or because he wasn't Samuel's actual father, because for instance he had died at an earlier date. You will need to look at least from the marriage until the 1861 census for possible deaths for Daniel Harris - not an easy task (and ultimately may be just frustrating) to see if he dies as opposed to just leaves the marriage - as in left the country or changed his name because he isn't showing on the 1871 census either.

FreeBMD will give you some candidates for Daniel Harris deaths - none at first sight look likely (and of course this early no ages at death) but does not have complete coverage for the period. FreeBMD has coverage charts to show you which quarters and years it covers completely.

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progress.shtml

for the quarters with out complete coverage you can check for yourself the GRO index for free at Ancestry

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx

If nothing further comes of that I would try wills both in the Cox and Harris family but particularly the Harris family just in case Ralph left one.

Deaths Mar 1872
HARRIS  Ralph  82  Wycombe  3a 326

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/wills.htm

Maidenhead Independent (ask Berkshire Record Office for further details) will be a non-conformist church (NC) of some sort. Independent is usually something like Congregationalists (Now the United Reform Church), but I suspect in this case it may be Countess of Huntingdon's Connexion.

http://berkshirerecordoffice.org.uk/collections/summary/pdfs/dn34.pdf

http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/beyond/factsheets/makhist/makhist7_prog5d.shtml

Regards

Valda

[wrinkly]

Thanks once again for your help. I think you struck lucky for me again. I looked at Daniels marriage cert under a microscope and found out that Daniel was a butcher and that Ralph was a cabinet maker ( not labourer sorry) It would seem therefore that we have Daniel and Ralph in 1841 and 1851.
Tatti- you  spotted Daniel in Marlow in 1841. Was Ralph with him as you have identified a possible Ralph Harris  in 1841 in Burchess Green?The number of people living with Ralph in Burchess Green in 1841 looks small compared with the list from IGI also Samuels age does not match. You also mentioned that you had Ralph on 1861 census. Could you please let me have the details together with those for Daniel in 1841
Valda-. Should I put much credence on Sophia Harris saying she was married on all of her census returns. Would she not put widow if Daniel was dead?
Once again thank you both for your help and I will use the information on my next visit. In the meantime any further thoughts you may have,I would be pleased to receive them.

[Tati]

Wrinkly - I gave you the complete 1841 census details for Ralph above 
Daniel was away from home. Perhaps also all children didn't survive...

Are you sure it didn't say 'baker' instead of 'butcher' for Daniel? 

[wrinkly]

::)Sorry, another senior moment. You were correct it said baker

[wrinkly]

Sorry i seem to have confused you. I did see 1841 census return for Ralph but asked if you could let me have the ones you mentioned for Daniel 1841 and the 1861 census for Ralph
As you say, the children may have died and I will do some searching .
Thanks
Wrinkly

[Tati]

1841
HO107/53/4 4 3
Great Marlow
High Street
William Newell, 20, Baker, yes
Joseph Newell, 22, J Saddler, yes
Daniel Harris, 15, App Baker, no

1861
RG9/858 98 36
Marlow, Buckinghamshire
West E? S? Gardens
Alfred Corby, head, 29, Brick maker, b. Marlow
Sarah Ann, wife, 31, b. do.
Hannah Maria, dau, 6, scholar, b. do.
Mary Jane, dau, 6, scholar, b. do. (The 2 girls are bracketted as twins)
Ralph Thomas, son, 4, scholar, b. do.
John William, son, 1, b. do.
Ralph Harris, father in law, wid, 70, Cabinet Maker, b. Little Marlow

Tanja 

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  This becomes interesting and more interesting. Daniel marriage was whitnessed by Alfred Corby and Sarah Ann Harris.
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[Valda]

1871 census RG10 1405 folio 81
The Gardens Great Marlow  Buckinghamshire 
Ralph Harris  82 Little Marlow, Buckinghamshire, Head  Widower Deaf

Marriage Sept 1853
Alfred Corby Wycombe vol 3a page 338
not fully indexed by FreeBMD but there dosen't seem to be a corresponding entry for Sarah Ann, or Sarah or Ann Harris.

The Corbys were in Berkhamstead on the 1871 census with two Harris visitors John aged 50 born Maidenhead and his 50 year old wife Eliza born Marlow.

Sophia's status on censuses is only as good as any other evidence which proves or disproves it and so far neither the 1861 or 1871 census produces any evidence that proves it i.e. Daniel himself.
You can find on censuses widows (the same is not true of widowers) who state they are married years after their husbands have died (I even have a case of a woman who gave the full details of her husband as head of household, even though he had been dead over a year - my most exceptional case). So what Sophia says about her status isn't unfortunately proof that Daniel was still alive - he might be (she might not even know herself) or he might not. It means you can't close down your options - your last actual sighting of him was on his marriage.

Regards

Valda

[Tati]

December 1852 1b 757
Alfred Corby to possibly Sarah Ann Harris
St Luke, London

Not sure why they would have married in London   
A special church they attended, perhaps? Otherwise probably a red herring.