Joseph Roberts & Frances R Roberts nee Halliday drown on ship Kapunda 1887.

[krisesjoint]

All Thanks 2 u Wendy   even if it gets more confusing by the minute   Guess something happened to the parents....another tragedy in the family?

RG10/3780 ED 2 Folio 35 Page 20 Entry 84
25 Brownlow Street
Liverpool Mount Pleasant

Alex Robb Head 45 unmarried b Liverpool Licenced Victualler
Janet Halliday Cousin 42 Unmarried b Liverpool Dressmaker
Mary Halliday Cousin 40 Unmarried b Liverpool
Frances Halliday Cousin Child 8 b Liverpool
Margaret Halliday Cousin Child 6 b Liverpool

[Kimberley]

For anyone interested there is a site called 'Ships List' Just type into Google.It gives many ships and names of people.
Hope that helps someone.
Kimberley

[Berlin-Bob]

Hi Kimberly,

just looked up that link: http://www.theshipslist.com/index.html

and entered KAPUNDA in the search engine.

3 finds which all point to the same page:

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/kapunda.html 
includes accounts from the Illustrated London News, and the Times, with passenger and crew lists

Horrible, reading about it, especially when you recall that they were on their way to "a better life" 

[winston]

Hi Kimberley

found these 5 on the 1851 Liverpool census, no ages are given but I'm wondering if David and Rachel Holliday are the parents and the other 3 are the aunts and Uncle that came into view on the '71 and '81 census?

Group number 118207 in Liverpool 1851 Census index.
5 results found.





1. Name David Holliday Age – Occupation Master Joiner BirthPlace Scotland Borough Liverpool Ward, Parish or Township Abercromby Ecclesiastical Parish – Piece No & Part 2183/1 Folio 0121 Registration District 461/6
Amount paid £0.05

2. Name David Jnr Holliday Age – Occupation App. Joiner BirthPlace LAN. Liverpool Borough Liverpool Ward, Parish or Township Abercromby Ecclesiastical Parish – Piece No & Part 2183/1 Folio 0121 Registration District 461/6
Amount paid £0.05

3. Name Janet Holliday Age – Occupation Dress Maker BirthPlace LAN. Liverpool Borough Liverpool Ward, Parish or Township Abercromby Ecclesiastical Parish – Piece No & Part 2183/1 Folio 0121 Registration District 461/6
Amount paid £0.05

4. Name Mary Holliday Age – Occupation Dress Maker BirthPlace LAN. Liverpool Borough Liverpool Ward, Parish or Township Abercromby Ecclesiastical Parish – Piece No & Part 2183/1 Folio 0121 Registration District 461/6
Amount paid £0.05

5. Name Rachel Holliday Age – Occupation - BirthPlace SCT. Dumfries Borough Liverpool Ward, Parish or Township Abercromby Ecclesiastical Parish – Piece No & Part 2183/1 Folio 0121 Registration District 461/6
Amount paid £0.05

It would at least make it understandable as to why Frances Rachel would have Rachel as a middle name.

which if it is tehm it would take you to loking in Scotland for them both.

Wendy

[munchies]

This is the info from entry in 1851
43 Brownlow Street

David Holliday head marr 52 master joiner employing 2 men Scotland
Rachel Holliday wife marr 46 Dumphries
Janet Holliday daur unm 22 dressmaker Lancs Lpool
Mary Holliday daur unm 20 dressmaker    "         "
David Holliday son unm 16 apprentice joiner    "     "
William Holliday son unm 8 scholar                  "      "
Alexander Robb nephew unm 25 joiner      "      "
Margaret Robb niece unm 16                 "      "
Mary McBride sister in law marr 41 Capt wife Merchant Service Scotland
James McBride nephew unm 3 Liverpool
Peter McBride nephew unm 1 Liverpool


Hope this helps a little

Donna