Author Topic: Muir Of Ord. Which District Does This Come Under?  (Read 18414 times)

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,138
    • View Profile
Re: Muir Of Ord. Which District Does This Come Under?
« Reply #63 on: Monday 23 April 18 16:03 BST (UK) »
Looks good, Malky.  Had problems on the map link but I think it's pinned on this one. looks like a lane to Upper Ardnagrask:

https://muir-of-ord.cylex-uk.co.uk/company/made-in-scotland-limited-22659386.html
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,138
    • View Profile
Re: Muir Of Ord. Which District Does This Come Under?
« Reply #64 on: Monday 23 April 18 16:08 BST (UK) »
On a Goggle map, it seems to be a SE offshoot of Corry Road.

https://goo.gl/maps/m8XiqYuDXyT2


and satellite:

https://goo.gl/maps/6SJwadDXsjo
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,138
    • View Profile
Re: Muir Of Ord. Which District Does This Come Under?
« Reply #65 on: Monday 23 April 18 16:40 BST (UK) »


A question Gadget, were the snippets of actual Census document images (e.g. the one that showed “Ardnagrask Inn”) from Scotland's People's web site or another resource?

Missed this, Doug. It was from SP.

Gadget
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

Offline Forfarian

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,097
  • http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ruz/
    • View Profile
Re: Muir Of Ord. Which District Does This Come Under?
« Reply #66 on: Monday 23 April 18 16:51 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to all of you for this fine (and fun) educational journey you shared.  I now know about valuation rolls at Scotland’s People, old documents from Scotland’s Places, the UK Census transcriptions at FreeCEN, and of course using old Ordinance
Ordnance not Ordinance! It was originally part of the Army, who needed good maps for all kinds of military reasons. See https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/

Quote
And let me not forget the matching of OS Names with the Census entries and then using shoe leather to chase them down (thanks again Forfarian!).
It was virtual shoe leather - nothing but a few electrons were incommoded during the chase.

Quote
were the snippets of actual Census document images (e.g. the one that showed “Ardnagrask Inn”) from Scotland's People's web site or another resource?
Scotland's People is the only source of original census images, apart from a few downloaded from there and posted on other web sites. See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.


Offline DougD

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 10
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Muir Of Ord. Which District Does This Come Under?
« Reply #67 on: Monday 23 April 18 17:53 BST (UK) »
Using virtual shoe leather ;-), I followed that road to Upper Ardnask back down to Corry Road and a bit toward Muir of Ord.  And found the white cottage where I took the photo of the sign post with “Croc Na Buill”: https://www.google.com/maps/@57.5119447,-4.4744349,3a,75y,229.88h,88.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saj9B-8s5ri6xcPkRYE8abg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en-US

You can't quite read it, but it matches the photo I posted yesterday.

Offline Forfarian

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,097
  • http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ruz/
    • View Profile
Re: Muir Of Ord. Which District Does This Come Under?
« Reply #68 on: Monday 23 April 18 18:36 BST (UK) »
Well, I am pretty sure that that house is not a 19th century inn. It could be a modern house on the same site.

However comparing the site with the old map at http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=57.5118&lon=-4.4754&layers=5&b=1 and using the slider to toggle from the old map to the satellite view and back, there was no house on that site when the map was surveyed.

It's on the south side of the road opposite the strip of woodland that is wider at the roadside and gets narrower towards the north. On the satellite map you can just see the power lines that are supported by the pylon in the driveway of the house.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

Offline DougD

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 10
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Muir Of Ord. Which District Does This Come Under?
« Reply #69 on: Monday 23 April 18 20:12 BST (UK) »
No, clearly not a 19th century Inn.  I'm guessing that the owner may have adopted the name for their house, using the name for the Inn which was perhaps located nearby. 

From Malky’s "Address View" link, when I expanded to the larger Google map, it pins the location at the end of the lane to Upper Ardnagrask which comes off Corry Rd.  Perhaps the Inn was up in that area…….

Offline Forfarian

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,097
  • http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ruz/
    • View Profile
Re: Muir Of Ord. Which District Does This Come Under?
« Reply #70 on: Monday 23 April 18 21:16 BST (UK) »
I wonder if it would be worth contacting the Highland Archives to ask if they have some information that would confirm that Croftnaboul and Cnoc-na-Boull are one and the same?

The ideal piece of information would be an estate plan, but I've had a look in the NRS and SCAN catalogues and I can't see where the Mackenzie of Ord estate papers are.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

Offline DonM

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,597
    • View Profile
Re: Muir Of Ord. Which District Does This Come Under?
« Reply #71 on: Monday 23 April 18 22:47 BST (UK) »
Go away foe 24 hours and come back to this.  Wow!!!

Glad it has been found, although a tad flustered as to how the census reads; definitely an odd one.

Don

I have turned off all email notifications, thank you.