Carson, Crombie, McCulloch, O'Hara, Hyslop

[Ninatoo]

Hi all,

I am searching for the names below Co. Down, particularly in Ballyroney area.

I have Thomas CARSON b. 1851 who married Elizabeth CROMBIE in January 1873 at Rathfriland, Ballyroney, Co. Down.  This couple moved to Ayrshire Scotland in 1873 before their first child William was born in November of the same year.

Thomas' father was John CARSON, whose father was also John, mother unknown. Mother was Mary HYSLOP or HISLOP  Her parents were William Hyslop and Ellen O'Hara or o' Hare.  John and Mary  also ended up in Scotland by 1881 and died in Ayr.

Elizabeth's parents were James Crombie and Margaret McCulloch who married in Drumballyroney according to the IGI in 1846.

Family rumour says that the Carson family were well to do and had owned land - even a race course -  in Ireland but I cannot find a reference to it.  That they were doing well when they arrived in Scotland is evident as they lived in a very nice area of Irvine.

I would appreciate any information regarding these names.

Thanks for reading!

Nina

[belfirle]

Nina
There was a racecourse at Bavan near Ballyroney.  May have leads on some of those families.

Sean

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[Ninatoo]

Thanks for that belfirle,

I tried some reserch via google, but didn't find anything of note...but I will keep this in mind for future research.

Nina

[Carson_Cda]

I think I might be able to assist on the Carson side.  I'm a carson in Canada & my Carson's came from Clydebank, via Govan, via Ayr (Irvine, Dundonald) to John in Ayr who originated along with his wife Mary Haslett (aka Hazlett/Hyslop/Hislop) from Ireland

[hepburn]

Hi Carson,
               Sorry to butt in ,
what part of Canada did your Carson's settle. Oonagh.

[Carson_Cda]

Toronto, Ontario

[Ninatoo]

Hi Carson,

Yes this is the same family!  Since writing this post back in February I have found out quite a lot of sideways information about my Carson ancestors, but not further back. Who are you descended from?

Nina

[Carson_Cda]

Descended from John Carson (Ireland/Dondonald Scotland) & Mary Haslett (Ireland/Dundonald) via their son William...near as I can tell, William & Thomas were brothers (not sure who exactly was eldest, but I think William when looking at Scottish Census data in Ayr from 1881).  At any rate, I found marriage records for John & Mary in Ireland, and it looks like John's father was Thomas, not John, despite what you've indicated and what I saw in John's Scottish Death record...often some of these records are not entirely accurate as other family members may not be familiar with grandparent & ggrandparent first names.  Still I'm 95%+ certain that these connections look right, & I'd like to close on the last 5%.

[Ninatoo]

Wow, there WAS a son William after all!  I have 8 known children of John and Mary, no William...I knew there had to be a William in the family somewhere because Thomas named his firstborn after him (firstborn died as a young man).

I think we need to compare some notes.  I see you are a new member here.  Do you know about private mesages?  I would like to send you one to give you my email address (I don't like putting it on the boards)

Nina