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Offline hourihane

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Help I知 stuck
« on: Saturday 11 February 06 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Can anyone give me some advice please? I sent to Brecon Register office for my ancestor痴 birth certificate to find his farther name. I believe he was born in 1792 but Brecon Register only has records from 1837. All his family were B M D at Bethesda Calvinistic Methodist, Llanwrtyd, Wells Brecon. The records for this chapel that are available are those for christenings from 1800-1832, which are held at the National Library of Wales, and from 1800-1837 at the Public Records Office in London. But all the dates are to late so how can I find his fathers name.
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Re: Help I知 stuck
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 February 06 14:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mike,

Give me as much information as you can, and I will try to look for you, as i am stuck on my own just now.

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 December 06 22:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi
just a thought do you know when the chapel was built?  The records may only go back to 1800 because the church was built that year they could have gone to another church pre that to be baptised and register the birth. What we think we know is not always right just a thought.
I noted that the church in Wales record for that are goes back further , you gave no name so did not know who to look for.
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Re: Help I知 stuck
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 December 06 08:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cardiff
My ancestors name is Richard Rhys Winston born 1873 Llanwrtyd Wells Breconshire Wales


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« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 December 06 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Did your man marry Elinor Bevan?
there seems alot of Winstons in both llanwrtyd and Llangamach well (llangamach Well not far from Llanwrtyd)
I can see all the Winston's in that area are you sure your mans name correct? there are Rees Winston's.
Just trying to help
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Wright Somerset/ Glamorgan
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Jenkins Cardigan
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 December 06 17:36 GMT (UK) »
Some of the registers for Bethesda Calvinistic Methodist, Llanwrtyd, Wells Brecon seem to be on the IGI.
If you go to this page
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyBrecon.htm#PageTitle

It gives a list of Brecon material  on the IGI. Click on whichever record you want to look at. C = christenings, M = marriages.
On the next page either enter a surname or leave blank to get everything for that church or chapel.

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Re: Help I知 stuck
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 05 December 06 09:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cardiff
No Richard Rhys Winston married Mary Williams on the 17th  June 1786. His son Rees Winston married Eleanor Bevan .

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 December 06 08:30 GMT (UK) »
I understand now
good hunting! cannot help anymore sorry. :(
cheers cardiff ;)
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Read Wiltshire /Pontypridd
Dove Lincolnshire/Pontypridd/Cardiff
Barnhouse Cardiff/Pontypridd
Wilkes Shropshire/ Staffordshire/ Rhondda
Fletchers Staffordshire/ Glamorgan
Wright Somerset/ Glamorgan
Probert Cardigan/Rhondda/Shropshire
Jenkins Cardigan
Lewis Cardigan
Morgan Penderyn/Pontypridd
Stephens Penderyn
David Glamorgan
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Hughes Goodrich/Pontypridd
Jackson/Smith London /Kent/Glamorgan
Hughes Maesteg/Ynyshire

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 06 December 06 10:03 GMT (UK) »
I think you'll have to get someone to check the parish records. The originals are at the NLW in Aberystwyth. If you can get there yourself (no location on your profile, don't know where you are), you need to get a reader's ticket beforehand. Or you can get someone on their list of accredited researchers to do it for you for a fee - details are on their website. The Powys Archives in Llandrindod Wells hold microfiche copies - again their website has details.
 At that time, marriages would have taken place in the establised church wherever they worshipped (unless Quaker or Jewish). This carried on until civil registration started in 1837 and marriages in non-conformist churches were allowed with the presence of a registrar. If the chapel didn't exist when he was born, it's quite likely he was baptised in the established church wherever the family worshipped later on. 
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb