Hampshire 1891 Census - EADE

[Decapod]

Hi Again

I have found Henry's Attestation, which is a minor miracle with my filing system!

He was working as a Groom, born in the Parish of Portsea during April 1860, if his records are to be believed.

He enlisted at Fort Elson Gosport,  and recorded his next of kin as "Father Henry Petersfield."
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Hold these ramblings; I have just found Henry Eade and Elizabeth Tull's Marriage cert and note that although it records Henry's father as "Henry Eade Deceased" it was witnessed by one "William Hall"!

So it seems that either the marriage Certificate is incorrect or has been incorrectly transcribed, or George Eade may not have been his father. what do you think?

Is your link to the Tull or Eade family? (the marriage was witnessed by Sarah Tull)

Regards

Decapod

[keyboard86]

Hi my link is neither Tull nor Eade families just enjoy a puzzle!

This is the 1871 census for Harry:-

William Hall 46
Harriet Eade 43
Harry 12
Willy 6
Mary 3
Correct census ref not as shown above RG10/1220/59/2 in Petersfield

A William Eade was born June qtr 1864 Petersfield v2c page 116 No mmn shown

A Mary Hall Eade was born March qtr 1868 Petersfield v2c page 125 mmn Cook

So to answer your question of whether George or a Henry was his father is open to debate or possibly the purchase of the birth certificate would indicate?!

George could be the father of the George Cook in 1861 with Thomas/Ann Cook and Harriet & Henry Eade though?

By 1881 census Harriet is now a Hall and looks to have married William Hall as Harriet Eade in 1883 Petersfield
Also another Eade/Eades a Sarah Ann Hall Eades September qtr 1871 Petersfield 2c 127 mmn Cook
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[Decapod]

Hi, Well it certainly is a puzzle!

I purchased Henry and Elizabeth Tull's certificate a couple of years ago and it is hand written rather than scanned from the original, so the mistake (if it is one) could have been made in 1885 when they were married or when it was hand written and sent to me.

Apart from my family at Petersfield there were quite a number of Eade relatives in the villages surrounding Petersfield such as Liss, Steep and Sheet. They seem to have been quite prolific! All of these of course show up as being in Petersfield (Registration District)

Incidentally it shows Elizabeth as being 25 years old Spinster Domestic Servant and the daughter of Thomas Hull (deceased)

I am going down to Hampshire in a few weeks time and so will call into the Registrar's Office to check the certificate's accuracy.

I will let you know!

Very Best regards

Decapod

[keyboard86]

Hi again,  I am fairly certain that if Henry/Harry mentions his father as being a Henry at marriage and in his Army records he believes/believed his father was a Henry,  the birth certificate in Havant maybe tells a different story perhaps?
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[Decapod]

Yes a Birth certificate would settle the matter completely!

The Army records would seem to be for a different Henry altogether, who was as mentioned born Portsea 1860.

His father could be Henry Eade of Petersfield who married Mary Ann Clarke at Portsea in 1856.

(He was the Henry who died at Portsea Asylum in 1881 - incidentally another brother died at Woking Asylum, one committed suicide at Dorking and their mother died of mental problems at Petersfield - happy household that!)

I had a look at the area that Henry and Mary Ann inhabited at Portsea and it was none too good. Henry was working as a Gardener Journeyman, a family trade at that time, and so were probably pretty impoverished.

If Henry the Soldier was their son, I would not be surprised at all if he wasn't baptised, or despite the prevailing penalties; that they didn't bother to register him either.

[Decapod]

Incidentally, if you like a mystery we have one which has stumped us for many years: -

It is yet another Henry Eade (Henry Frank Eade b1852 Peterfield to Charles and Sarah Eade)

He is put into the Royal Navy as a Boy Sailor and comes out in 1880. In the 1881 census he is lodging with his Sister Emily Harling (Alice Emily Eade).

Then he completely disappears!

He was a bit of a character and my best guess is that he changes his name and went back into the armed services? Something that was pretty common.

[keyboard86]

Have you found the birth record of the possible Henry son of Henry & Mary Ann c 1860 Portsea mmn Clarke or in fact any Henry Eade b c 1860 Portsea?

If you want another puzzle what happened to Lawrence Edgar Eade son of Harry/Elizabeth L post 1911?!
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PS also note Gosport/Farnham were also areas associated with the Army, so is an Army record missing for the Henry/Harry who married Elizabeth Louisa Tull?

[Decapod]

No have found nothing at all for the birth of a possible son for Henry and Mary Ann, and no mention of any joint children on the 1861, 71 or 81 census either.

I had half assumed that Henry the Soldier and Henry who married Elizabeth Tull might have been one and the same due to circumstantial evidence, but was never wholly convinced.

I will give Lawrence Eade a prod and see if i can find anything.

Best regards

Decapod

[keyboard86]

  Hi again,  so just who were the parents of the Henry b c 1860 with father Henry "Petersfield"  in his Army records?

Still think Harry/Henry mother Harriet is the one who married Elizabeth L though!!

Been proved wrong before though!!
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