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Liverpool Censuses 1861/71/81/91 - Wunderley
« on: Friday 24 February 06 09:29 GMT (UK) »
Will some kind person please help me find my maternal great-grandmother, Jane Elizabeth Wunderley? Familysearch.com shows Jane Eliz. Wunderley, B:9.2.1861, Christened 20.2.1861 St. Peter, Liverpool. Parents shown as Francis and Jane Wunderley.
Francis Wonderley, B: 9.3.1854, C:16.4.1854 St. Nicholas, Liverpool; parents also shown as Francis and Jane W., may be a brother.

Freebmd shows a marriage for a Jane Wunderley and Thomas HUME, March Q 1884 Liverpool.

A story emerged from a relative who was doing research five years ago, who died soon after, that Jane left behind a family of five in Liverpool and went to work in a 'big house' in Salford or Manchester. She became pregnant to the master of the house, or his son, then a husband was 'found' for her. That person was John Collens and I have found the family on the 1901 census in Salford.

Freebmd shows a marriage for Jane Elizabeth Wunderley in 1893 Sept. Q, to John Collens. John Wlm Collens (their first child) birth entry 1893 Dec. Q.

I don't have any information about Jane Elizabeth, other than the above, so if anyone can find her and her family I would be most grateful.

Thanks in anticipation, regards, Irene


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Re: Liverpool Censuses 1861/71/81/91 - Wunderley
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 February 06 10:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Irene,

1861 census  Liverpool

Milton St

Francis Winderley, head, 50, Clock Maker, Liverpool
Jane, wife, 29, Liverpool
Ellen, dau, 10, Scholar, Liverpool
Frances, dau, 7,Scholar, Liverpool
Mary, dau, 5,  Scholar,Liverpool
Joseph, son, 4, Liverpool
William J, son, 2, Liverpool
Jane E, dau, 7 months, Liverpool
Margaret Green, servant, un, 18, Servant, Liverpool

RG9/2660
Folio: 64
Page: 10

Regards
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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
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Re: Liverpool Censuses 1861/71/81/91 - Wunderley
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 February 06 10:46 GMT (UK) »
1871 census  Liverpool

31 Virgil St

Francis Wonderley, head, 60, Clock Maker
Jane, wife, 38, Fish Vendor
Frances, dau, 17, Fish Vendor
Joseph, son, 14, Errand Boy
William J, son, 12, Scholar
Jane E, dau, 10, Scholar
Thomas, son, 6, Scholar
Alfred, son, 2
William Meredith, visitor, mar, 27, Bricklayer
Margaret Meredith, visitor wife, 27
James Green, boarder, un, 21, Sadler

All born Liverpool

Rg10/3756
Folio: 53
Page: 7

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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
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Re: Liverpool Censuses 1861/71/81/91 - Wunderley
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 February 06 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Oh Darcy, Thank you so much for finding the family. This is such a nice present for mum, who celebrates her 81st birthday tomorrow. She remembers the early 30s when she and her siblings would always go to Jane Elizabeth's house - next door - after school to have their dinner, as mum's mum was out working.
I am delighted. Many, many thanks. Irene


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Re: Liverpool Censuses 1861/71/81/91 - Wunderley
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 February 06 11:21 GMT (UK) »
I'm not finished yet ;D

1881 census Liverpool

11 Court  house 4  Bond St

Andrew Munro, head, 22, Engine Fitter, Greenock Scotland
Fanny, wife, 25, Liverpool
Jane, sister, un, 22, Servant, Domestic Liverpool
Thomas Winderley, brother, 17, Shop Boy, Liverpool
E Bulmes, sister, un, 20, Servant, Greenock Scotland

RG11/3596
Folio: 101
Page: 42


Marriages Dec Quarter 1877  Liverpool
Frances Wonderley
Andrew Munro   Volume: 8b  Page: 84

That's Frances, Jane & Thomas in 1881. I'm still trying to find the others.

Darcy ;)
Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
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Re: Liverpool Censuses 1861/71/81/91 - Wunderley
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 February 06 11:33 GMT (UK) »
I never get used to this :'(

Deaths March Quarter 1873  Liverpool
Alfred Wonderly, aged 3,  Volume: 8b  Page: 33

Deaths Dec Quarter 1877  Liverpool
William James, aged 18,  Volume: 8b   page: 49

Darcy
Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
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Re: Liverpool Censuses 1861/71/81/91 - Wunderley
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 February 06 13:36 GMT (UK) »
Irene,

I didn't have any luck finding Jane in 1891. I tried for a Jane Hume as well as you mentioned the marriage to Thomas Hume in 1884.

The other name on the page is Joseph Nelson and strangely I did find a Jane E. and Joseph Nelson living in Blackpool - but the birth date for Jane is 1869 and the birthplace Blackpool.

Here is Frances in 1891 - they didn't age much. ;D

1891 census  Liverpool

292 Great Homer? St

Andrew A. Munro, head, 29, Marine Engineer, Greenock Scotland
Frances, wife, 29, Liverpool
John Newman, nephew, 13, Printer's Apprentice, Liverpool

RG12/2958
Folio: 35
Page: 63

Darcy
Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
<br /><br /><br /> Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Liverpool Censuses 1861/71/81/91 - Wunderley
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 February 06 13:47 GMT (UK) »
I didn't find Joseph in 1881 but here he is in 1891 - have a look at the sister in laws name.......  ;D

1891 census  Liverpool

39 Cambridge St

Joseph Wonderley, head, baker, Liverpool
Mary E, wife, 33, Cotton weaver, Bolton
Joseph, son, 8, Manchester
Alfred, son, 7, Broughton
Ernest, son, 3, Broughton
Jane E Nelson, sister in law, mar, 28, General Servant, Liverpool
Elizabeth Whaites, lodger, widow, 25, charwoman, Chester Cheshire
Harriet, boarder, 5, Pendleton Lancs
William, boarder, 4, Broughton Lancs

RG12/3212
Folio: 15
page: 15

Darcy
Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
<br /><br /><br /> Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Liverpool Censuses 1861/71/81/91 - Wunderley
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 February 06 14:39 GMT (UK) »
Irene,

Jane Nelson can't be Joseph's sister in law -

Marriages June Quarter 1882 Bolton
Joseph Wonderley
Ellen Parkinson  Volume: 8c   Page: 431

On the 1891 it's Mary E for Joseph's wife. I had a look at the 1901 and it's Mary Ellen.

I think that's Jane Wunderley who is with them - and she married Joseph Nelson in 1884.

Darcy 

Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
<br /><br /><br /> Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk