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[DebbieG]

Just found another small peice of the jigsaw from Free BMD

Deaths Mar 1842 STRETCH  Joseph   -   Stone  17 171

Debbie

[katherinem]

Great work Debbie!  I have trawled through the marriage indexes for the marriage of Thomas and Elizabeth, to no avail, also www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk have the marriage indexes for St Michaels, Stone indexed for the years 1837-1969 and I cannot find them on there neither.  I tried looking for Emma's birth reg (c1845/6), under all three surnames, but again nothing!  I did come across a reg for a Emma Stretch  marrying in 1870 at Stone.  So if Thomas and Elizabeth did ever marry, it looks like their first two children were born out of wedlock!
I have looked on the 1841 census and these were the only Whittingham's I have found so far, but they could be likely candidates for Thomas's parents and siblings:

Mill Lane, Stone (H0107-0993, folio 13/49, page 21)
James Whittingham, 45, Carter, (all family born in county)
Ann              "         , 40
George        "          , 20 Shoe M
Ann              "         , 15
Mary            "          , 10
William         "         , 8

I have yet to find Joseph Stretch and family, their names must be mistranscribed, I will have another 'bash' later.

[DebbieG]

Hi Katherine - I tried the 1841 and couldn't find them either - I think you may be right about James and Ann being Thomas's parents though - I found them in 1851 (in Stone) and eldest daughter Mary is still at home - giving her birth place as 1826 Fairoaks Staffs - according to my Phillimores maps that would come under the parish of Eccleshall.  I couldn't find her baptism but I did then find

John James  Whittingham baptised 2nd March 1819
George Withingham baptised 11th Sept 1820 and
Thomas Wittingham baptised 5th April 1823 all at High Offley which is one of the next door parishes to Eccleshall.

This marriage in Stone also seems to fit James & Ann - I suppose as he was a carter he may well have moved around a bit

25th May 1815 James Whittingham to Ann Turner at St Michaels Stone


According to the 1851 census James the father was born in 1793 in Great Chatwell Shropshire

Debbie

[Blue-Sten]

Thank you so much! Please keep up the good work, you have found out so much more than I have previously been able to find.

Might it be possible to find Thomas Whittingham on the 1841 census?

Also, what happened to Thomas after 1901? I found a death record for him once, or who I thought was him, but it was not. Somene once supposedly looked in some churchyards around Stone but again, no luck.

Please keep up your amazing work, it is very much appreciated.

P.S. i did check Jane's birth cert and it did say late Stretch, formely Nicklin, but I guess we already figured that out!

 

[katherinem]

I haven't been able to find your Thomas on the 1841 census, there is a possibility for Elizabeth Stretch, 25 a patient at North Staffordshire Infirmary, Shelton.

[Blue-Sten]

Intersting. If that is her, why is she there???

Are James and Ann, the supposed parents still around in 1851?