Ernest Arthur Ketch 1891 or 1901 Cambridge

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Can anyone find Ernest Arthur Ketch on either the 1891 or 1901 census for Cambridge?
I have tried every permutation I can think of and I think I'm starting to go round in circles.

I have already found he was born 1888, married 1909 (Lizzie Preston) and died 1954. All in Cambridge.
I have found Lizzie on the census's but no luck with Ernest.

Many thanks

Andy

[CaroleW]

Do you have a copy of  his birth cert showing his parents names?

June qtr 1888 Cambridge 3B 501

No trace on 1891 or 1901

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Hi Carole

Thanks for taking the time to reply.
I have now ordered a copy of Ernest's birth certificate as it occurred to me last night that if Ernest is illegitimate or his father died very soon after his birth and his mother married/remarried very quickly, he may have been going under a different name by the time of the 1891 census. If this is so he may have had to revert to his birth name for his marriage.
It was a toss up between knowing who his real father was (birth Cert) or his stepfather (marriage cert) if his mother did remarry.
In the end the birth certificate won out. At least if I find his mothers full name, I can start looking for a marriage.
So now I just have to wait.

[CaroleW]

Good luck

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The mystery deepens!

I have finally got the birth certificate for Ernest Arthur Ketch b1888 in Canbridge. I now know his mothers maiden name was Harriet Elizabeth Linsey. I have also found a marriage in 1890 to a James William Andrews, so Ernest A. is a Williams in the 1901 census. I have found his entry but haven't had a look at other members of the household yet.

Now comes the problem. Ernest's father is given as Henry Harry Ketch an Engine Stoker. Try as I might I cannot find a Henry or Harry Ketch, Kitch or Catch who could possibly be this person. What are the chances Harriet made the name up as she is listed as Linsey when she marries in 1890?

Any suggestions???

Regards
Andy

[CaroleW]

Hi again Andy

Presume you meant that he was an Andrews in 1901 - not Williams.  Here's the family at 7b Stanley Rd Cambridge


Ernest Andrews 13 b Cambridgeshire Son     
Harriet Andrews 35 b Cambridgeshire Wife     
William Andrews 36 b Hempstead Essex Head   

RG13/1528 Folio: 53  Page: 15 

A copy of her marriage cert to Andrews will show her status at the time of marriage

I can't find them in 1891.  I have looked on the GRO index from 1887 -1890 for a death for Ketch and there are very few so it wasn't a common surname.  I suspect Ernest was illegitimate
Have you had a look for a Ketch/Linsey marriage

[CaroleW]

Found them in 1891 living in Hempstead Essex

James William Andrews 28 Hempstead
Harriet E wife 25 Cambridge
Ernest 3 son - shown as born Hempstead

RG12/1434 Folio: 35  Page: 22

[CaroleW]

I have searched the GRO index from 1882 to 1888 and the only Ketch marriage with a Henry/Harry was a George Henry Ketch back in June qtr 1882 Banbury but there is no Harriet Linsey/Lindsey x-ref

This is Harriet in 1871 - spelling on image is Lindsey - address 16 Caroline Place Cambs

David Lindsey 27 b Cherry Hinton Cambs Head   Gardener
Harriet E Lindsey 4 b Cambridge Daughter     
Harriet M Lindsey 27 b Cambridge Wife   


They are LINSEY on the 1881 and there is a Harry - brother

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Hi Carole

My you have been busy!!!

Thankyou very much for the information you have found for me. I apologize for my mistakes, yes it should have been Andrews not Williams and it should have been Cambridge not Canbridge.

As you say Ketch is a very rare surname and is my main area of interest (as I am a Ketch)
I have been through all the available pages for births marriages and deaths on Ancestry's beta and noted every Ketch. I thought I had found a candidate for Ernest's father only to find he died at birth and almost every other Ketch is accounted for at that time.
The George Henry you found married Rosetta Nichols and had William Henry in 1883 and then appears to have emigrated to New Jersey - so he's out of the picture.

I have searched the marriage records from 1882-1888 for a marriage for Lindley, Lindsay, Lindsey, Linsey, Linsley, Lindsley - no joy. I've even looked for marriages for Kitch and Catch in that period - still no joy

Ernest does appear to be illegitimate. In which case Harriet is either making up a name for the registrar (but why pick such an obscure name as Ketch?) or she was illiterate and she spelled or remembered it wrong herself (Keith, Keach or even Ketcher) after a one night stand?

I guess I am not going to be able to link this branch of the Ketch name to my own tree. The last three branches I did this with have all linked up solidly. So I suppose one out of fours not bad.

Thanks for all your help. I'm off to type up all your info -just in case something does turn up in future.

Regards
Andy