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Paul E

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Re: The Ideal Census
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 21:00 GMT (UK) »
That's fascinating, Bob.  Makes you really think about the distinction (if there is one) between genealogy and family history and with genetic histories.  Could get a bit scary.

Paul

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Re: The Ideal Census
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 21:17 GMT (UK) »
One of the countries Paul is probably thinking of with regard to the large scale genealogy databases to keep track of its citizens pedigrees is Iceland. Actually, I find it difficult to imagine any other country being able to do so. Iceland is unique in that the 'Book of Icelanders' records more half of all Icelanders who have ever lived, and goes back to the 9th century. DNA studies on the maternal and paternal lines have shown it to be around 98% accurate. It's always been in the public domain, so entering it into a database doesn't make much difference.

The aim of tracking pedigrees is not, thankfully, political, in Iceland. Instead, it's aimed at researching hereditary diseases, and half of the adult population have volunteered to give a blood sample. Also their medical records are linked to the database. While it may sound a bit dodgy, they assure participants that the data "is anonymized, identifiable only by an encrypted ID generated by the Icelandic government's Data Protection Authority. This third-party encryption system is the only one of its kind, and enables the company's scientists to cross-reference various data sets about large groups of people without ever knowing who they are."
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Re: The Ideal Census
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,
Further to the posting by Janed on the Canadian Census, it is interesting to note that the 2001 UK Census asked more or less the same questions.  Here’s the link if anyone wants to have a look.

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Re: The Ideal Census
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Meg

Perhaps I need to qualify what I said a little. While I found the questions rather detailed it was the follow up phone calls that asked for me by name to be over the top.

I suupose there are no ideals and that my descendants will be delighted that I was so honoured.!!!

Janed


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Re: The Ideal Census
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 23:35 GMT (UK) »
When the latest census is finally revealed I wonder what the descendants of those who declared themselves to be Jedi will think of their ancestors ?  :P

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The 2011 Census: is it necessary?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 10 March 06 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi

From the Telegraph, an article on whether having a census is necessary these days.

The census just doesn't add up

Food for thought!
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Re: The 2011 Census: is it necessary?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 10 March 06 17:29 GMT (UK) »
I can't see the last census or any future ones being of any interest to those who wish to make a Family Tree. If I remember correctly they didn't even ask where I was born :( I know it will be on computer somewhere held by the Government, but as we all know that is one of the things we find most interesting when we look for our ancestors at the present time.
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Re: The 2011 Census: is it necessary?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 11 March 06 08:04 GMT (UK) »
Seem to remember reading in the papers this week that the census in future will be asking how much we earn?

Question is why? They'll be wanting to know what we eat for breakfast next  ::)

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Re: The 2011 Census: is it necessary?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 11 March 06 08:44 GMT (UK) »


On every question of the last census here, I answered 'Mind your own business'    I just happened to be in a really bad mood on census night.  Didn't hear from anyone about it!!


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