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1st Marriage of John Crompton
« on: Monday 04 October 04 15:11 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find the first marriage of John Crompton who was born in 1857.  At the age of 47 he married for the second time after being widdowed.  John had two sons Walter & John by his first wife.  The family lived in the Pilkington area of Bury.

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Re: 1st Marriage of John Crompton
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 October 04 15:31 BST (UK) »
Hi
I have had a look for Johns marriage but there are quite a few,do you have any census info for him to narrowdown the search,or dates of births for the children etc. Let me know and I will look again for you.
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Re: 1st Marriage of John Crompton
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 October 04 16:23 BST (UK) »
Hello again Nicky, Thank you for helping me.  Here is as much information a I have got on John Crompton. 

From his 2nd marriage certificate 1904 -: 

John Crompton 47 widower residence Unsworth. Father Wright Crompton.  I think it possible that his Mother's name was Ann. 

John had two sons Walter & John both young when Mother died.  Possibly the family lived at Unsworth near Bury
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Re: 1st Marriage of John Crompton
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 October 04 16:29 BST (UK) »
Here is the 1881 census for John, I think maybe it will be easiest to work out census going forward and then hopefully his wife may appear.

Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 Wright CROMPTON   Head   M   Male   55   Pilkington, Lancashire, England   Cotton Weaver     
 Ann CROMPTON   Wife   M   Female   58   Pilkington, Lancashire, England       
 John CROMPTON   Son   U   Male   24   Pilkington, Lancashire, England   Cloth Maker Up At Bleach Works     
 George REDFORD   Stepson      Male   12   Pilkington, Lancashire, England   Operative Cloth Bleacher     
 Alice A. CROMPTON   Daur      Female   16   Pilkington, Lancashire, England   Cotton Weaver     


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Source Information:
  Dwelling   Lane Ends
  Census Place Pilkington, Lancashire, England
  Family History Library Film   1341926
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   3873 / 31
  Page Number   13

Will look on 1891 and post any findings,hopefully married by then.

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Re: 1st Marriage of John Crompton
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 October 04 16:39 BST (UK) »
Sorry skipping back to 1871 for the family

Alice A Crompton 6  Pilkington, Lancashire, England Daughter  Pilkington  Lancashire   

Ann Crompton 48  Pilkington, Lancashire, England Wife  Pilkington  Lancashire   

Tom Crompton 14  Pilkington, Lancashire, England Son  Pilkington  Lancashire   

Wright Crompton 46  Pilkington, Lancashire, England Head  Pilkington  Lancashire   
 
Source information:    RG10/3963
Registration district:    Bury 
Sub-registration district:    Pilkington 
ED, institution, or vessel:    8 
Folio:    150 
Page:    25
Household schedule number:    127

address - Lane End

Tom should actually be John, clearly John on image

John was listed as a dyer
Wright a cotton weaver

1891 for father Wright

Crompton, Alice Ann 26 Pilkington, Lancashire Daughter  Pilkington  Lancashire   
Crompton, Ann 68 Pilkington, Lancashire Wife  Pilkington  Lancashire   
Crompton, Frederick 26 Rochdale, Lancashire Sonin-law  Pilkington  Lancashire   
Crompton, Wright 65 Pilkington, Lancashire Head  Pilkington  Lancashire 

Source information:    RG12/3146
Registration district:    Bury 
Sub registration district:    Pilkington 
ED, institution, or vessel:    7 
Folio:    139 
Page:    54


and I think this may be him in 1891 although there is a child Ernest, but the occupation is the same as 1881.

Crompton, Ernest 2 Pilkington, Lancashire Son  Pilkington  Lancashire   
Crompton, John 34 Pilkington, Lancashire Head  Pilkington  Lancashire   
Crompton, Priscilla 32 Pilkington, Lancashire Wife  Pilkington  Lancashire 

Source information:    RG12/3146
Registration district:    Bury 
Sub registration district:    Pilkington 
ED, institution, or vessel:    7 
Folio:    140 
Page:    56

occupation - cloth maker up at bleach works

address 67 Chapel Lane

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Re: 1st Marriage of John Crompton
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 October 04 16:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Nicky,  I have a death of Ernest Crompton on M Is for Unsworth Methodist Church 1898 John & Pricilla named as Parents.  I am not sure of the ages of the two sons Walter & John but know they both served in the 1st WW (they were step brothers to my Mother-in-law). John got killed in France aged about 20. 

Thanks again  Matty
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Re: 1st Marriage of John Crompton
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 October 04 16:58 BST (UK) »
And this looks like the marriage

Marriages Dec 1887
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CROMPTON  John    Bury  8c 711  
Haslam  Priscilla     Bury  8c 711

this would be Ernest, as shown in census

birth March quarter 1889
Crompton  Ernest     Bury  8c 620

this could be Walter in June quarter 1892
Crompton  Walter     Bury  8c 659

death of Wright in June quarter 1892
Crompton  Wright  66  Bury  8c 380

and this looks like the death ofPriscilla

March quarter 1904
CROMPTON  Priscilla  45  Prestwich  8d 332  

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Re: 1st Marriage of John Crompton
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 October 04 17:38 BST (UK) »
I dont have access to the 1901 but searched and found these, not too sure where Johns wife would be, but like I said I dont have the original image to look at.


 Ann Crompton  78 Lanc Unsworth Lanc Unsworth   
 John Crompton  6 Lanc Unsworth Lanc Unsworth   
 John Crompton  44 Lanc Unsworth Lanc Unsworth Maker Up At Bleach Wks
 Walker Crompton  9 Lanc Unsworth Lanc Unsworth   

I think Walker should be Walter.

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Re: 1st Marriage of John Crompton
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 October 04 18:23 BST (UK) »
Nicky you have been busy on my behalf thank you.  This looks like I have found quite a few of the Cromptons (looked for ages for Walter & John's births).  Now I think I can safetly send for the certificates.  The supprise of another brother although I had copied the death from MI's just in case it was the same family.

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