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Gutherless family York or Bridlington?
« on: Wednesday 15 March 06 18:03 GMT (UK) »
My maternal grand mother was a Gutherless but we are not sure if she was born in York as my mother and her sisters can't remember ever being told anything about the family.  I believe grandmothers father's name was Tom and her mother was Elizabeth but have no more knowledge on the ggrandparent side.

Grand mother's name was Grace Gutherless she had an older sister Annie and 2 brothers, Edwin and France. Sadly Frank died in WW1, we have visited his grave as we found where he was buried from the War Graves Commission.

If anyone can help with my search I would be grateful, Grace married William Wilson and they had a farm in Elvington York. 4 children, Frank, Dorothy (my mother) Nancy & Monica.  William died when he was 42 in 1935 and grandmother married John Coupland who was the saddler in Elvington.

I am really at a brick wall on this one having gone back to the 1600s with my fathers family too this is so frustrating  ???
BOREHAM - (KEN/Ramsgate & Sittingbourne/Harriet or Hetty m James Ravensdale)
CHENEY - (ENG/Rochester/Married into the de Frates family 1749)
DE FRATES - (ENG/London, Bishopsbourne, Rochester & York)
FAIR -(LON/London/Hannah m John de Frates)FRENCH - (KEN/Higham/Frances French b 1794; m. John de Frates)
GUTHERLESS - (YKS/Bridlington, York, Malton)
PARKER - (YKS/York and Redcar)
RAVENSDALE - (ENG/Sittingbourne/Stafford)
SWAN - (KEN/Bishopsbourne/Rochester/London)
WILSON - (YKS/York & Leeds

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Re: Gutherless family York or Bridlington?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 18:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi goose
This could be your family on the 1901 census
Ref: RG13/4442 Folio 16 all born in York

Alfred Gutherless Head 46    Railway Guard
Elizabeth Wife 42
Annie Dau 18                        Shop Assistant
Frank Son 12
Grace Dau 5
Edwin Son 3
11 Hanover st, Micklegate, York, Yorkshire


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Re: Gutherless family York or Bridlington?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 18:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Goose

Beaten to the 1901 census!

BMD Q2 1895, York, vol 9d pg 16

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Also, Craggs, Hamer, Sampson, Hesketh, McNamara, Hodson.

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Re: Gutherless family York or Bridlington?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 18:22 GMT (UK) »
1891 RG12/3884 Folio 54
Alfred Gutherless Head 36   Railway Guard
Elizabeth Wife 32
Annie Dau 8
Frank Son 2
Leonard Son 10mths
9 Newbro' St, Clifton, Yorkshire

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Re: Gutherless family York or Bridlington?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 18:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Goose

Marriage of Alfred Gutherless & Elizabeth Ann Lonsdale
Q2 1880, York vol 9d pg 103

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Re: Gutherless family York or Bridlington?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 18:30 GMT (UK) »
1881 RG11/4716 Folio 138
Alfred Gutherless Head 26 b Yorkshire     Railway Guard
Elizabeth Ann Wife 22 b Yorkshire
Thomas Wright Boarder 43 b Yorkshire    Grocer (out of employ)
Sarah Wright Boarders Wife 43 b Doncsater
1 Warwick St, Clifton in York, Yorkshire
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Re: Gutherless family York or Bridlington?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 21:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks but neither of those look anything like the family we had, as Tom was the head and Elizabet the wife with Annie, Edwin, Frank and Grace as the children.

Although looking at the 1901 Cencus again, maybe ggrandfather was Alfred!!!
BOREHAM - (KEN/Ramsgate & Sittingbourne/Harriet or Hetty m James Ravensdale)
CHENEY - (ENG/Rochester/Married into the de Frates family 1749)
DE FRATES - (ENG/London, Bishopsbourne, Rochester & York)
FAIR -(LON/London/Hannah m John de Frates)FRENCH - (KEN/Higham/Frances French b 1794; m. John de Frates)
GUTHERLESS - (YKS/Bridlington, York, Malton)
PARKER - (YKS/York and Redcar)
RAVENSDALE - (ENG/Sittingbourne/Stafford)
SWAN - (KEN/Bishopsbourne/Rochester/London)
WILSON - (YKS/York & Leeds

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Re: Gutherless family York or Bridlington?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Goose

Marriage of Alfred Gutherless & Elizabeth Ann Lonsdale
Q2 1880, York vol 9d pg 103

Regards
SandraC

This looks interesting Sandra, how did you get this, can I find the same thing or d I need special software etc.,

BOREHAM - (KEN/Ramsgate & Sittingbourne/Harriet or Hetty m James Ravensdale)
CHENEY - (ENG/Rochester/Married into the de Frates family 1749)
DE FRATES - (ENG/London, Bishopsbourne, Rochester & York)
FAIR -(LON/London/Hannah m John de Frates)FRENCH - (KEN/Higham/Frances French b 1794; m. John de Frates)
GUTHERLESS - (YKS/Bridlington, York, Malton)
PARKER - (YKS/York and Redcar)
RAVENSDALE - (ENG/Sittingbourne/Stafford)
SWAN - (KEN/Bishopsbourne/Rochester/London)
WILSON - (YKS/York & Leeds

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Re: Gutherless family York or Bridlington?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 21:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi goose
This could be your family on the 1901 census
Ref: RG13/4442 Folio 16 all born in York

Alfred Gutherless Head 46    Railway Guard
Elizabeth Wife 42
Annie Dau 18                        Shop Assistant
Frank Son 12
Grace Dau 5
Edwin Son 3
11 Hanover st, Micklegate, York, Yorkshire


Sue

This definitely looks possible now I have had chance to look at them, sorry I only glanced at all the mail before and jumped at the first suggestion.  Will read them better tomorrow. Thanks again
BOREHAM - (KEN/Ramsgate & Sittingbourne/Harriet or Hetty m James Ravensdale)
CHENEY - (ENG/Rochester/Married into the de Frates family 1749)
DE FRATES - (ENG/London, Bishopsbourne, Rochester & York)
FAIR -(LON/London/Hannah m John de Frates)FRENCH - (KEN/Higham/Frances French b 1794; m. John de Frates)
GUTHERLESS - (YKS/Bridlington, York, Malton)
PARKER - (YKS/York and Redcar)
RAVENSDALE - (ENG/Sittingbourne/Stafford)
SWAN - (KEN/Bishopsbourne/Rochester/London)
WILSON - (YKS/York & Leeds