IRISH Family

[cathyj]

Hello Tom
I have a great grandmother, Mary Irish, who married Charles E Sims in 1878  & lived in Hemel Hempstead from then.  her father was Charles Irish but I have no details of where he was from.
Cathyj

[Rick]

Hello Cathy

I wonder if this could Charles and Mary in 1881.

RG11/1442 Folio 12 page 2
Green Lane Farm
Bovingdon
Herts

SIMS
Charles, Head, Married, 28, Farm Bailiff, b Liphook, Hampshire
Mary, Wife, 27, b Ireland
Annie, Dau, 1, b Bovingdon, Herts
Blanche, Dau, 8months, b Bovingdon, Herts
Anne, Mother, 49, Annuitant, b Liddlesham, Sussex
Elizabeth HILL, Servant, 12, General Servant, b Breadcroft, Herts
Walter BUNYAN, Servant, 15, Farm Servant - Indoors, b Beadcroft, Herts

Bovingdon is a small village to the South West of Hemel Hempstead, so I think that this could well be your couple.

If we take Ireland to be Mary IRISH's birthplace, then this could be her in 1871.

RG10/156 Folio 68 Page 12
83 Wimpole Street
Marylebone
Middlesex
(Working for Rebecca Le BRUN, Shoe Manufacturer)
IRISH Mary, Servant, Unmarried, 18, Servant, b Ireland.

There isn't an obvious candidate on the 1861 index, so I wonder if her family came to England between 1861 and 1871?

Rick

[Rick]

Hello again Cathy

Here they are in 1901

RG13/1324 Folio 12  Page 2
Green Farm
Green Lane
Bovingdon
Herts

SIMS
Charles E, Head, Married, 48, Farm Bailiff, b Liphook, Hants
Mary E, Wife, 47, b Ireland
Blanche, Dau, Unm, 20, Milliner, b Bovingdon, Herts
Maude, Dau, Unm, 19, School Teacher, b Bovingdon, Herts
Thomas G, Son, 17, Carpenter, b Bovingdon, Herts
Frances B, Dau, 14, b Bovingdon, Herts
Charles E, Son, 11, b ditto
Albert H, Son, 9, b ditto
Arthur H, Son, 3, b ditto
Alice COKER, Servant, Unm, 18, General Servant - domestic, b Bovingdon

and in 1891.

RG12/1123 Folio 11 Page 2
Bovingdon Green
Green Lane
Bovingdon
Herts

SIMS
Charles Edward, Head, Married, 38, Farm Bailiff, b Liphook, Hants
Mary Elizabeth, Wife, 37, b Ireland
Annie Elizabeth, Dau, 11, Scholar, b Bovingdon
Blance Ethel, Dau, 10, Scholar, b ditto
Maud Mary, Dau, 9, Scholar, b ditto
Leonard John, Son, 7, Scholar, b ditto
Thomas George, Son, 6, Scholar, b ditto
Bertha Frances, Dau, 4, Scholar, b ditto
Charles Edward, Son, 1, b ditto
+ 4 servants.

Here is a link giving lots of info on Bovingdon.

http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/data/places/bovingdon.htm

It seems that as Mary consistently gives her birthplace as Ireland, you will need to search Irish records for her birth.  Civil registration only began in Ireland in 1864, so it looks as though the best that you can hope for would be a baptismal record. Without a definite location within Ireland this may be difficult.

Rick