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Offline Dave Francis

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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 23:14 BST (UK) »
My four ....

Ada MAYOSS - b. 1874 in Kentish Town, London / d. 1952 in Hillingdon
12 children!  Outlived her husband, Richard BLACKMAN, by 19 years

Jessie Rosena Annie BARLTROP - b. 1885 in Hayes, Middlesex / d. 1967 in Southall
1 child - my grandmother. Outlived her husband, Cornelius Fisk GOODWIN, by 6 years

Mary Ann LANWORN - b. 1870 in Llanwonno, Glamorgan / d. Unknown
Was a school assistant before her marriage to Edward FRANCIS in 1899. 9 or 10 children

Annie Marie GILMORE - b. 1878 in Great Warley, Essex / d. 1960 in Stratford, London
Was the daughter of an Irishman, Daniel Gilmore, who served in the Royal Scots.
Outlived her husband by 19 years. 4 children, all daughters.

I've managed to trace back the ancestry of three of them by several generations.
Annie father is, however, a problem for obvious reasons!
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 23:24 BST (UK) »
My 4 Gt.Grandma's - all born in London were: -

Alice Annie RUST - one of 7 sisters and 1 son.

Anna (Annie) MOSS

Emma MIDDLETON

Susanna HOCKEY

I knew only Alice RUST when a small child in London - she would dandle me on her knee and recite the alphabet backwards. I have one photo of us together which I treasure.
Attached is a photo of her on her wedding day - 1881.

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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 30 March 06 02:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Zelley - my Beers are from Whitstable I'm afraid, have not found any from Devon as yet but you never know.... I'll keep you in mind if I find any.

Steph.

I don't think James Beer was from Devon, he married a Devon lass in South London area, not sure where James hailed from.
But post WW I or II  they lived in Kent.
Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations


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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 30 March 06 02:29 BST (UK) »
My 4 Gt.Grandma's - all born in London were: -

Alice Annie RUST - one of 7 sisters and 1 son.

Anna (Annie) MOSS

Emma MIDDLETON

Susanna HOCKEY


I wonder if Susannah is connected to the HOCKEY families
of Somerset & Dorset? ???
Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations

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The Widows, children and the legacy
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 30 March 06 02:41 BST (UK) »
The year was 1901 and the place somwhere in Canada,
Mrs Elizabeth Zelley was a widow for about a year following the loss of William, John Cordell and Richard Kenyon.

Elizabeth was still residing in Nanaimo a year following the
boat capsizing in 1900.  At one time, aside from some of the children two grandchildren Edward and Rose Savage were living in the same abode.  Another 20 year old daughter was working
as a domestic for the Heddle family. 

Of interest, years later, the "Timms Centre for the Arts" at the University of Alberta in Edmonton would be named after
 her son.  But, that's a story of another kind for a
different thread.
Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations

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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 30 March 06 03:50 BST (UK) »
Hello Zelley - No, Susannah Hockey was born in Lambeth and even further back they were all Londoners.
One thing that may interest you is that Alice Rust became Alice SEALEY  - a name that is similar to two of yours I see !

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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 30 March 06 08:06 BST (UK) »
Jan -  Very much a Powys ancestry for a Shropshire lass :)

Gadget

I'd say the full Monty!
Stuck with:
William Williams of Llanllyfni
John Jones in Llanelli
Evan Evans in Caio
David Davies of Llansanffraid
Evans: Caio/Carms
Jones: CDG, DEN

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Re: The Lighter Side & makind ends meet or starting over
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 30 March 06 08:29 BST (UK) »

So, how did our great grandmothers cope when they were left as widows due to death by accident or sickness of the
great grandfathers?


Ggrandmother Cameron outlived her husband by 27 years, dying at the age of 95!  Her many children had properties all around southern Queensland, and she lived with various ones of them at different times.

Ggrandmother Huband-Smith (Denham) died 3 years before her husband.

Ggrandmothers Bentley (Denham) and Hall (Hulle) outlived their husbands significantly, but both had close families to support them in Sydney and Brisbane, so would have suffered little. 

Their husbands all died of natural causes, not in war.

Unfortunately, the only one I remember slightly is ggrandmother Cameron, and her only very dimly, as I was a small child when she died.

MarieC
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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 30 March 06 08:53 BST (UK) »
Gt.Grandma (Alice Rust) died in 1947 - her husband John Sealey died in 1902 - a very long widowhood.
Her remaining  children ( she had lost two daughters and one son -my grandfather)  were my beloved spinster Gt. Aunts and Gt.Uncle who I remember after all these years with much affection.