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Re: I now have my grandfather's birth certificate
« Reply #18 on: Friday 26 January 07 18:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks David, you hav been a lot of help.
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Re: I now have my grandfather's birth certificate
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 28 January 07 03:23 GMT (UK) »
David, George was born in England in 1880.  He came here in 1885.
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Re: I now have my grandfather's birth certificate
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 28 January 07 09:17 GMT (UK) »
I know - it was me who gave you that information back in Nov 2004 from the 1900 US census. But from the information the other poster gave you on your other thread regarding the 1920 census, it may not be your George who married Edith Spendlove, given that in 1920 he says he was born in the USA and his parents were born in Virginia and Illinois, and his age is 6 years out.

On the 1881 census on www.familysearch.org you can see George age 2 months living in York with parents Richard and Hannah, along with your grandfather Edward age 16.

You need the 1908 marriage cert to try to prove one way or another if it was your George who married Edith Spendlove.
 
I have to say I think it may be a different George.

Later....In fact having looked again at the IGI on www.familysearch.org I'm sure it was a different George. It was George P Rutter who married Edith in 1908, and there's also a birth of George P Rutter in 1889 in the same Chicago, Cook Co., Illinois, parents George and Sarah.

I think it's back to the drawing board for you as to what happened to George after he appeared in the 1900 census.

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: I now have my grandfather's birth certificate
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 28 January 07 14:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all for all the help.  Yes, I will have to do some more research.
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Re: I now have my grandfather's birth certificate
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 28 January 07 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Please correct me if  I am wrong, as I am not trying to bring out the ire of anyone, but am I wrong in assuming that George is the son of Richard and Hannah Rutter?
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« Reply #23 on: Monday 29 January 07 06:39 GMT (UK) »
The 1881 England census showed George as the son of Richard & Hannah (with your grandfather Edward in the same household as the brother of Richard). The 1900 US census showed Richard Hannah and George in the same household in Illinois- full details earlier in this thread.

So, No, you are not wrong in assuming that George is the son of Richard and Hannah. But if you want to move past the assuming stage and prove once and for all that he was their son you will need a copy of his birth certificate. His birth appears to have been in Guisborough registration district in the June quarter 1880 volume 9d page 510, and a copy certificate can be ordered online at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

But this Yorkshire born George does not seem to be the same George, born Illinois, who married Edith and who appeared in the 1920 US census age 34.

There is no information so far about what happened to your George after 1900

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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: I now have my grandfather's birth certificate
« Reply #24 on: Monday 29 January 07 14:44 GMT (UK) »
OK....I'm not one to give up..... :P

I have found your George on the 1910 census. He is indexed as Geo Reitter

If you remember, in 1900 he was in a town called Greenfield. In 1910 he is just about 5 miles down the road in Sangamon County, Illinois.
Rutter Geo Head 28 born Eng, Parents born Eng, Emigrated 1883, Miner
Eliza Wife 27 born Illinois, Parents born Illinois
Richard Son 6 born Illinois
George Son 5  born Illinois
Bert Son  4 born Illinois
Clifford Son 9mth born Illinois.

Will look for his parents.
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Re: I now have my grandfather's birth certificate
« Reply #25 on: Monday 29 January 07 15:35 GMT (UK) »
1910

Illinois, Grundy

Rutter, Richard Head 67  born England, Laborer in RR
Rutter Anna Wife 65 born England


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Re: I now have my grandfather's birth certificate
« Reply #26 on: Monday 29 January 07 15:46 GMT (UK) »
1920 Sangamon Co, Auburn, Illinois

George Rutter Head 39 Born England, loader in a coal mine
Eliza Wife 37 Illinois
Richard J, son 16, Illinois
Gerge W. 15, SonIllinois
Herbert J. Son , Illinois
Clifford Son 10, Illinois
Esther Dau 7, Illinois
Harold T son, 2 1/2, Illinois
Emma Jane 10 months