James Scott born Brigg Lincoln

[CatOne]

1851?

HO107/2343 Folio 385 Page 38
Westgate, Rotherham
John Gordon? 50 Nailmaker Derbyshire Belper
Mary 48 Sheffield
John 20 Nail Maker Rotherham
James Scott son in law 19 Brass founder Maltby
Mary Scott dau 18 Dressmaker Rotherham

Regards
Catherine

[CatOne]

Marriage? -
James Scott June 1850 Sheffield Vol 22 Page 561
Possible brides - Mary Gorden, Harriet Jackson, Susannah Rhodes or Emma Bocking

[TinaS]

Hi CatOne 

Yes, we seem to be following the same family.

From Marriage Certificate:
11th October 1862; between James Scott, 31 years old widower, occupation Brass Fitter, father George Scott, Agricultural Labourer
And,
Harriot Hague, 25 years old, spinster, father Joseph Hague, wheelwright (9c 637)

I also agree with you that the William Hague is the William Scott of the 1871 census (have been unable to find any William Scott except in the 1871 census, nor have I to find a death record for him).  Although I wonder whether he is not Harriot's child but is in fact a nephew (he would still be a grandson to Joseph).  Harriot had at least three brothers, and one was named William c1835.

As to Richard, if my James is the James who was living in Wikersley in the 1841 census (which I think more and more likely), then he is definitely his brother (I followed each of the Wikersley children to see what happened) and of course he is living next door to Harriot's father Joseph in the 1861 census, just prior to James and Harriot's marriage.

The 1861 census entry for a James and Ann Scott, has made me wonder if James was in fact married three times.

Like you I found the 1851 census with Mary Scott nee Gorden and I have also found two death records for a Mary Scott:  June 1855 and June 1856.

In the 1861 census there are no children so the likelihood is that they had not been married long and I found a marriage for James Scott in Dec 1858 although have found no suitable Ann to go with it; and I also found a death record for Ann Scott: Sept 1861 in Rotherham 9c 242

So, what do you think?

Am I on the right track?  Could he have married three times?

I would be interested in your thoughts.  It's great that you seem to confirm what I have now found out.

Many thanks for your interest.

Regards

Tina

[CatOne]

It certainly looks like he married 3 times - at first I though maybe it was just an enumerator error with the name, or she could have been Harriet Ann (or vice versa), but their years/places of birth are different so it looks like he was unlucky and two wives died young!

(however, I've just looked at the 1841 census and theres an "Ann Hague" b. 1835 in Rawmarsh!!!) Did you find Harriet Hague in 1841?? 

[TinaS]

Hi again

Yes, I found her although the transcribed name was not Hague:

These are my notes:

Ok, I think this could be the right family:  Joseph is a Wheelwright and they are living Westgate, and we have both Harriot and Christiana who is 5 months old.  Needless to say both Hasse and Hapie look like Hague to me.

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This fits with the 1851 census I have found as well, although that again is a little unusual.

What do you think?

Tina

[CatOne]

It does look like he had 3 marriages then.......the only way to be sure though is to get the marriage certificates I guess, particularly that one in 1858, I think the other ones are fairly definate, and the only way to find "Anns" maiden name is off the certificates (unless someone can find a parish register entry.....)

Good Luck 
Catherine