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Henry Heritage
« on: Wednesday 19 April 06 01:03 BST (UK) »
Can anyone find any reference to a Henry Heritage on censuses 1841 to 1881 in the Garnfach (Nantyglo) or Abergavenny areas please? He is described as deceased on his daughter's marriage certificate in 1884 - she was my great grandmother, Sophia Heritage,  who married James Jenkins at Abergavenny registry office. There may be a link to Pershore, Worcestershire.
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Re: Henry Heritage
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 02:31 BST (UK) »
On the 1881 Census Sophia is housekeeper to a John  Jenkins with 2 children,

Thomas and Mary Ann... is that the right family..

Best wishes

Mo

PS: Found a birth of a Sophia Heritage for 1857

District of Abergavenny

End June

Volume 11 a

Page 67 

May be worth getting the cert.
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Re: Henry Heritage
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 08:32 BST (UK) »
Yes, you found my Sophia Heritage and her two children (born out of wedlock) before she married my grandfather, James Jenkins in Abergavenny in 1884. I remember her daughter Mary Ann Thomas (nee Heritage) when I lived in Abertillery, Mon. in the 1930's and '40's.
I also have a birth certificate for Sophia Heritage born 1857 in Garnfach (Nantyglo, Mon.)which gives her father as William Heritage, but her marriage certificate  of 1884, says her father was Henry Heritage (deceased). This is quite a puzzle. There is definitely a connection somewhere with Pershore, Worcestershire.
Thank you for your interest.
Marion Lambert

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Re: Henry Heritage
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 08:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Marion

Welcome to Rootschat!  :D

This certainly is a puzzle!  I can't see her in England or Wales.

What occupation(s) do you have for her father?  It was not uncommon for illegitimate children to invent fathers on their marriage certs, but in that case, I would not have expected a name of any kind on the birth cert.  Maybe William died shortly after her birth and she misremembered his name?

What witnesses do you have on the marriage cert?

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)


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Re: Henry Heritage
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 08:56 BST (UK) »
Hi,
   What was Sophia's mothers name???

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Re: Henry Heritage
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 08:59 BST (UK) »
Hello
 This may be the family in 1841

Trevethin
HO107 744/11 F 46 P1
Nightingale village
John Heretage 25  Forgeman 25
Sarah Heretage 25
Henry Heretage 9 months

ALL BORN IN COUNTY

You will find details of the marriage of the parents in November 1839
with names and occupations of grandfathers in the Trevethin  Transcripts
on Mike John`s web site.


http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monfamilies/myfamily-history.htm



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Re: Henry Heritage
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 09:40 BST (UK) »
On Sophia's birth certificate, her father's occupation is Iron miner. (This is when her father is stated to be William Heritage)
The witnesses to her marriage to James Jenkins in 1884 are Anne Lewis and Wm.Way. (On this certificate her father is stated to be Henry Heritage (deceased).
Interestingly, there is a strong family tale that she was found abandoned as a baby on a bridge near Abergavenny, then brought up by a couple who kept a pub in Brynmawr. This makes me wonder how she knew the names of her parents, for on the birth certificate for 26th March 1857 her mother is said to be Harriet Heritage, formerly Davies. This tale was recently repeated to me by Sophia's 94 year old granddaughter. My father often told me that she was brought up in a pub in Brynmawr.
I have tried for years to untie this Gordian knot!

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Re: Henry Heritage
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 10:04 BST (UK) »
Getting nowhere fast on this one!  :D

Do you know the name of the family that is said to have adopted Sophia?  It might help if we could find her on one of the earlier censuses.

Have you tried looking for the marriage of Harriet with HERITAGE?  The full BMDs are available on Ancestry Beta - free for the time being.

Might be worth considering newspaper reports for the story of her discovery when a baby.  Not sure how news-worthy such a story would have been?

Rhys - would the 1861 for the HERITAGE family likely be among the "lost" census returns, do you suppose?

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Henry Heritage
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 10:32 BST (UK) »
Hello Arran
Could well be missing in 1861. There are no appropriate Heritage names in The Aberystruth or Abergavenny census indices.
No  Appropriate Heritage in the 51 or 71 indices either
in Aberystruth.Will have a look at Brynmawr .Brecs

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