Do these Uniforms confirm their identities?

[MaryA]

I found a book that's a published history - not sure where to buy it yet !! will look for it .......

Historical Records of the Kings Liverpool Regiment (1904) R. Cannon

History of the Regiment from 1685 to 1903. Contains biographies of officers with dates of commissions and promotions

Annie 

Are we on another mission Annie?? 

[liverpool annie]

I don't think so Girlfriend !!
because ........ although you can get it through the library ........... or you can buy it for $400  we don't really know if Fish and Chip's Great Grandad is even in there !!

Unless we can find it through Gugenheim ..............  or UNLESS you feel like a trip to the regimental museum 

Mick ! - that HAS to be him - nice job ! he's from Midlothian too - wonder if the families knew each other before ?? that would be interesting wouldn't it ?

Annie 

[MaryA]

Well let me know if I can help ...... *sigh* I'll be prepared for another marathon run around and typing session!

[liverpool annie]

You're so good Mary !  - thank you for the offer !

"your bestest friend ! " 

[M.T.H]

"your bestest friend ! " 

Awwww, isn't that nice!

There is a copy of the book 'Historical Records of the Kings Liverpool Regiment' at the Merseyside Maritime Museum,if anyone's passing!

They have some great reference books for Liverpool men who served in the Kings Regiment during the wars;

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/liverpoollife/collections/citysoldiers/research/kingsregimentsources.asp

No sign of FishMan yet, did he swim away?!

Mick

[MaryA]

There is a copy of the book 'Historical Records of the Kings Liverpool Regiment' at the Merseyside Maritime Museum,if anyone's passing!

They have some great reference books for Liverpool men who served in the Kings Regiment during the wars;

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/liverpoollife/collections/citysoldiers/research/kingsregimentsources.asp

My fingers are hoping that it's not the WHOLE books you need ....... and that it is open sometime when I'm not at work .........

[FishMan]

Mick, Mary & Annie,

I'm truly in awe. I admit that tracing your own family history is probably the most "drug free" addictive hobby that exists, but the contribution you make to others is amazing. Thanks ever so much.

For anyone who may at some time have the opportunity to see this book I will post all the information I have to date on William Henry FISHER from The Kings Liverpool Regiment;

William Henry FISHER [born 17 July 1859 at 99 Mount Pleasant, Liverpool] (timber merchant)
Son of Henry FISHER (timber merchant) and Mary Ann FISHER (nee SYMES) (dressmaker)
1861/71/81 Censuses - living at 15 Rodney Street, Liverpool
23 May 1883 - Lieutenant The Kings Liverpool Regiment, 1st Brigade / Battalion
Harts Army List shows the regiment's address as 65 St. Anne Street Liverpool
23 April 1884 married Phoebe Annie MCCALLUM
12 May 1886 - part of the royal guard at opening of Liverpool Exhibition
1891 Census - living at 56 South Road, Great Crosby
Early 1890's - family moves from Lancashire to England's south-east
June Qtr 1898 - killed in accident when hit by tram/train in Rochford, Essex

Andrew

[MaryA]

Now a picture of 56 South Road, Crosby - or rather Waterloo as it's known as might be within my means, if I can just remember to do it, I'll expect to be passing sometime hopefully within the next couple of weeks.  According to www.old-maps.co.uk it's now the Cafe Bar Esperanto. 

If you don't know the area put this number into www.streetmap.co.uk 331950,398010 and check os grid.  You'll see that it's not far from the Marina - one of those many places where Annie probably did a bit of courting!  (me too, but we won't go into that!). 

Pity I didn't know about that last week, I had lunch in the "Royal Waterloo" pub/hotel and I bet your ancestor went in there too, it dates back to about 1815 and had its name changed to Royal Waterloo because of the Battle.  They are trying to produce a booklet about its history, including any anecdotes and photographs which people might be able to donate and I'll get a copy when its available, don't know how long we're going to have to wait for it though.

[FishMan]

Annie,

A special thanks to you for putting me on the right track (see Reply #2) via Malta.

Just by chance today I found Matilda Gardiner, her parents and two sisters in the 1841 Census of Scotland. As it turns out Matilda's parents were Sergeant John Gardiner of the 42nd Regiment and Phoebe/Phebe Allen (see Reply #4). In 1841 the regiment was garrisoned in Stirling Castle, Stirling. The birthplaces of sisters Charlotte b. 1836 in Scotland, Anne b. 1840 in Ireland and John b. 1847 in Malta reflect the changes in the regiment's postings and support the fact that Phoebe/Phebe was widowed with 4 young children.

I now know father John was born in Scotland and mother Phoebe/Phebe was born in England and can continue the search via his military record (see Reply #8).

Again - many thanks,


FishMan