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cardiff · « **Reply #9 on:** Friday 05 May 06 20:39 BST (UK) »

have looked up IGI enoch Phillips father not Edward Phillips.
Where did ellis and Mary marry ? what church ?
cheers cardiff

Gadget · « **Reply #10 on:** Friday 05 May 06 20:55 BST (UK) »

Ellis and Mary married in the Parish Church, Ruabon. I think it is St Mary's. You could check on Genuki.

The info that you found in the IGI (via PM) suggests that Edward and Anne might have either been married before 1816 (the same batch has them having a child baptised at 'independant', Rhosllanerchrugog in 1816) or co-habiting. As it says Edward Phillips and Anne Jones there is no way of telling. I also found a daughter Margaret bpt in Ruabon Parish Church to Edward and Anne Phillips , Dec 25 1821

However, I can't find Ellis and Mary in 1851 or 1861, do you have the reference. This is why I was checking about the Enoch. I don't want to spend time going down the wrong line $:-\$

Gadget

Gadget · « **Reply #11 on:** Friday 05 May 06 21:19 BST (UK) »

Found them now. I notice that they had an Anne(7) and Mary (3) both born Penycae. It might be worth my PMing wrjones if he's not seen this thread. he might have some more ideas about the birth records of the children.

I'll continue with the parents

Gadget

cardiff · « **Reply #12 on:** Friday 05 May 06 21:33 BST (UK) »

Thanks Gadget was glad you found them. In 1861 Mary I believe has died and Ellis Has remarried a Hannah they now have 3 children Their eldest daughter Ann is now working as a servant in Bilston.
I looked up the 1837 BMD index I cannot find Ellis Phillips =m= to Mary Hughes but found info on northWales bmd they give Rhuabon , St mary's but I don't have page and vol.
but there is a Mary Hughes 4th Qtr 1839 Wrexham.
Thanks so much for your help
cheers cardiff

Gadget · « **Reply #13 on:** Friday 05 May 06 21:44 BST (UK) »

Hi

I'm not surprised you didn't find him. He's down as Ellis PHILIPPS - 4quarter, 1839, Wrexham, vol 27, page 391

Gadget

cardiff · « **Reply #14 on:** Friday 05 May 06 21:48 BST (UK) »

thank you sooooo much you really are a STAR

cheers cardiff

Gadget · « **Reply #15 on:** Friday 05 May 06 21:52 BST (UK) »

Well we are kind of cousins-in-law and if you can't help family..............

There are a few Edward Phillips born Morton Above -1794, 1780, etc. Problem is, if they went non-conformist, as they obviously did, the records get a bit tricky $:-\$

Gadget

cardiff · « **Reply #16 on:** Friday 05 May 06 22:23 BST (UK) »

I found another bapt at the calvinistic methodist church Jonathan Phillips b 6;7;1829 bpt 15;8;1829 father Edward phillips mother Ann jones. also Joseph b 8;1;1824 bpt 7;3;1824 independent.
was the 1816 child you found edward phylips father edward mother ann ?
I could not find Ellis.
What are your thoughts do you think it will be to much to look any further ? It's ok I am gratful for all the help you have given me.
At least I went back a generation.
Many thanks for all your help
cheers cardiff

Gadget · « **Reply #17 on:** Friday 05 May 06 22:55 BST (UK) »

Hi again

Been chattering to big sister for a while. I shall look things up over the weekend - it's going to rain on Sunday

- I think I might be able to get back another generation if Edward and Anne were married in Ruabon parish. The IGI is not very good for this area. You were lucky to get the Independant records. I had Ellis b. Feb 1820 bpt April 1820.

Be in touch but maybe Sunday.

Gadget

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