Not so 'Smart'

[polidor]

I'm hoping someone can help me here?
On this 1891 England census i have my grandfather JOHN SMART as a Railway Porter together with sisters,,Florence & Lydia and brother William. Above Florence are 2 Katherines. One  is John's elder sister and i know hs mother was named Katherine also. 

But ---i'm confused because Katherine E Smart [John's sister]has the name Oakley in the same space as well as Smart and the 1st Katherine has a surname i can't read atall.

Positive i've got my family but can't figure out the 'Oakley ' bit and the fact that 'mum' now appears to have a different surname.

Any ideas about the name changes please?? Poli 

[Tati]

Hi Poli,

I think the sister is called Smart, and the 'Oakley' belongs to mother Catherine: her name would be Katherine Rodin Oakley. Was she a widow and remarried?

Tanja 

 

[Tati]

Look at this:

Marriage September quarter 1885
Catherine Rhoda Smart - George James Oakley
Pancras 1b 88

with a possible death for her husband:
December quarter 1884
John Smart age 47
Pancras 1b 117

[polidor]

Tati, many, many thanks.
Yes a 2nd marriage seems the answer. My Gt. Grandfather was called John [her 1st husband] and now i have a death date  also.

I've only just started on the 'Smarts' i decided to leave my Welsh lot for a while as i'm getting to the sticky bits, pre census!!!

Thought i'd give the Smarts a go and hit a hurdle straight away but thanks to you i can set off down the next bit  Poli

[Tati]

In 1901, Catherine R Oakley is living with her widowed son-in-law Herbert Woods. The youngest son, Harold T Woods, is aged 1.
It seems Herbert Woods was Katherine's husband: I can see this:
June quarter 1899
Hendon registration district:
Birth Harold Totterdell Woods - 3a 268
Death Katherine Elizabeth Woods - age 29 - 3a 135

Tanja 

(I now also see the marriage: Catherine Elizabeth Smart - Herbert De Lina Woods, March 1892 Pancras 1b 87)

[polidor]

Tati. where are you getting all this from!!!

So mother and daughter married father and son,

My grandfather's 2nd name was Totterdell, i see that has been passed on to the nephew. I assume 'Totterdell' will surface further back down the Smart line somewhere or other.

I could of course, leave you with my Smarts and pop off back to Wales!!!!!


Hendon registration district where Poli was born.

[Tati]

Sorry Poli - did I spoil the fun?     

I don't think they 2 women married father and son. Catherine Oakley was Herbert Woods' mother-in-law because her daughter married him, that should be all, I think. 

Tanja 

[polidor]

Well I'm like my subject heading "not so smart"  i got the relationships between mother and daughter's husband all askew

it's me age!!!

and no, you didn't spoil the fun. I thouroughly enjoy all the aspects of this ancestry searching but when someone like you, gives a big helping hand its great. Thanks again. Poli.