1891 and 1901 Census - Templeman in Merthry Tydil

[bates]

I am looking for information on Caius Templeman and Elizabeth (nee Hughes)

(I believe Caius and ELizabeth were married in Dec 1888 in Merthry Tydil although she was born in Malldraeth Anglesey)

They were living at 54 Penn St Merthry Tydil Glamorgan Wales before they came out to Australia in 1905

The children I know of are
Jame 1892?, Martha 1895?, Tryphena 1897, Caroline 1901 and Phyllis 1905.

Any help finding more Templemans in Merthry Tydil would be very much appreciated.

tanya

[Daisypetal]

Hi Tanya,

This could be them in 1901,

1901 RG13/5038 f.51 p.20 Aberdare, Glamorgan

238 Ca??? Rd

Cauis TEMPLEMAN  Head  34 Coalminer Steward?  Somerset Crewkerne
Lizzie     "  "          Wife   31                             Llangollen Denbigh
Mary J    "  "         Daur    9                              Glamorgan Tichains?
Martha    "  "         Daur    7                                 "   "          "  "
Tryphena  "  "       Daur     3                                   "  "     Aberdare
Caoline    "  "        Daur     1                                  "  "          "  "

Transcribed as Cains TEMPLEMAN

Regards
Daisy

[bates]

Thanks Daisy

That does look like them. 

I havent been able to find a Jane Templeman anywhere on freebmd that matches the girl in the record.  Her name was written as Jane on the shipping record (SS Ophir) that came out to Australia.  I also thought it was a little odd that the child's name wasn't Mary as Caius' mother's name was Mary so it stands to reason that the little girl is Mary Jane. 

I also have differing info on the second daughter's name.  It is either Martha Hughina (Lizzie's last name was Hughes) or Martha Ann (which is Caius' mother Mary's middle name)

I don't suppose I could as you to look for Caius' brother Charles and his parents Charles and Mary Ann on that 1901Census?  

tanya

[rhys]

Hello Tanya
Here is Caius and family in 1891
Rhys

Merthyr Tydfil
RG12 4435 F 31 P 40
57 WEBSTER STREET
Caius Templeman h m 28 Collier  SOM Crewkerne
Lizzie Templeman w m 27 DEN Llangollen
Mary J Templeman d u 8 months GLAM Merthyr Tydfil

[Arranroots]

Hi Tanya

This looks like the brother in 1901

RG13/5035/126/6

Charles Frederick TEMPLEMAN H M 30 - horse shoeing smith - Somerset Crewkerne
Florence W M 21 - Yorks Nottingley
Chas Frederick son 1 - Glam Aberdare

Address: 35 Whitcombe St, Aberdare

kind regards, Arranroots 

[Daisypetal]

Hi Tanya,

Sorry, I should have put Martha H and Caroline M on the 1901 census. Martha A age 6 is living with other children and parents George and Margretta TEMPLEMAN in Merthyr Tydfil.

Is this Charles the brother of Caius?

1901 RG13/5035 f.126 p.6 Aberdare

39 Whitcombe? St

Chas TEMPLEMAN   Head  M  52  Farrier Blacks  Own Account  Somerset Crewkerne
Eliza Alice       "  "   Wife  M  53                                     Glos Cirencester
William Hinton  "  "   Son   S  26  Farrier Blacks                 Hants Southampton
Albert Edward "  "    Son   S  21  Tinsmith                            "  "        "  "
Thos James    "  "    Son   S  16  Clerk                            Glam Crombach?

There is a Charles Frederick TEMPLEMAN age 30, and family living at no.35, is the the son of the above?

Regards
Daisy

P.S Arranroots has just posted that one

[Arranroots]

Sorry to poach Daisy: thought you had gone! 

Place of birth for Thomas in 1901 is Cwmbach, I believe

kind regards, Arranroots 

[Daisypetal]

Hi Arranroots,

No worries ,
I think the more eyes the better, especially to correct my poor reading of place names in Wales

I had gone, I've had a whole late nights sleep, and tried to do the gardening, since my last post here

but now it's pouring with rain, guess I'll just have to pass some more time here

Daisy

[Daisypetal]

Hi Tanya,

If it is Charles TEMPLEMAN born abt 1821, and Mary Ann TEMPLEMAN born abt 1825 that you are looking for, I can't find them in 1891 or 1901, but I have found the following deaths,

TEMPLEMAN Mary Ann  age 61 Jun Q 1886 v.11a p.315
TEMPLMAN Charles age 69 Mar Q 1888 v.11a p.382

Both in Merthyr Tidfil.

If it's not the above can you give some more details and I will have another look.

Regards
Daisy