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Missing Davids! Help please!*COMPLETED*
« on: Sunday 21 May 06 17:39 BST (UK) »
Ok i have hit a brick wall with 3 brothers all born in Llangynwyd. I found them on one census but i cant find the reference number amongst all my other stuff. They were living with their father Ward David and other siblings in Llangynwyd but i have searched the 1881 census hoping to find them with partners and/or children but they dont seem to appear!
These are the elusive brothers:
Llewellyn David b. Llangynwyd c. 1849
David David b. ditto c. 1862
Jenkin David b. ditto c. 1865

Any help to find any record for any one of them would be a huge help and most appreciated!!!
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Re: Missing Davids! Help please!
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 May 06 18:56 BST (UK) »
Hi
Look up 1881 census David Ward b 1820 Coychurch Farmer. there is a David and a jenkin, place of birth spelled oddly but they are in Llangywyd lower. There is also a  g -son Llwellyn. anyway have a look it could be them.
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Re: Missing Davids! Help please!
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 May 06 19:45 BST (UK) »
Thankyou!!!!
I didnt think of checking to see if they were still with their father and they didnt come up individually.
Cheers!!
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 May 06 22:04 BST (UK) »
HI
also found a jenkin David 1891 census living Bridgend .. could not look out of money on line 1837
 Have you found him on that one states married.
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Re: Missing Davids! Help please!
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 May 06 10:22 BST (UK) »
I have not found him later than 1881 yet. Llewellyn is still missing in 1881 though! I have tried all sorts for him and the only conclusion i can come to is that he died young. I was baffled by the fact that some of them appeared with their father but when i tried just looking for them alone i had no results! Odd. I spent hours and hours last night trying to find them but i got so tired i had to give up. Thanks for your help!
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Re: Missing Davids! Help please!
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 May 06 13:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Karren.
Ifound on 1891 in Lower Llangynwyd at 65, Pyllan Cottage;
Jenkin David age 25 born Llangynwyd occ; farmer
Mary A David age 25 born Pyle wife
David W David age 8months born Llangynwyd
Mary David age 30 born Llangynwyd sister

Marriage for Jenkin and Mary Ann Matthews oct qtr 1889 Bridgend vol 11a page 1132.
Possible for Llewelyn in 1891 living in Kings Norton, Worcestershire at 4, Vincent Parade;
Llewelyn David age 37 born Bridgend occ; carpenter
Jane age 34 born St Brides Manor wife
Anne M R age 6 weeks born Balsall Heath Worcs
Elizabeth age 6 born Balsall Heath
Florence age 7 born Balsall Heath
John L bage 19 born Balsall Heath
William A age 2 born Balsall Heath
Cant find marriage yet.

possible for David in 1901 in Hitcham Bottom, Buckinghamshire;
David David age 39 born Southamdoin? Glamorgan occ; ag lab
Elizabeth David age 34 born Greenford Middlesex wife
Glyn T David age 1 born Hitcham, Bucks

Marriage for David and Elizabeth Lowton apr qtr 1898 Eton, Bucks vol 3a page 1208.

Cant find them at all in Wales which makes me wonder if these are them in England?
Morgan=Aberdare/Hirwaun
Thomas=Brecon/hirwaun
Havard=Brecon/Hirwaun
Beynon=Hirwaun
Perkins=llanboidy
Checkett=Lancaster
choake=plymouth/Lancaster
Birkett=Lancaster
Hughes=Corwen

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Re: Missing Davids! Help please!
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 May 06 13:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks. I think the first two are correct but i think the David David is the wrong one as it could possibly be meant to read Southerndown. I cant believe i cant find them anywhere in 1881, it drives me crazy when that happens! :'(
Thankyou so much for looking for me. I have just been contacted by a living relative related further back from this line so i was trying to get some more done to help him out in his research too.
Thanks again!!!
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Re: Missing Davids! Help please!
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 May 06 13:49 BST (UK) »
Well I have no idea where David has gone!! Cant find a death either.
If the Llewelyn is correct, in 1901 they are in Aston, Warwickshire at 19, Schofield St;
Llewelyn age 46 born Glamorgan occ; carpenter
Jane age 49 born Glamorgan
Annie Martha age 10 born Birmingham?
Elizabeth age 16 born Birmingham? occ; cycle worker
Florence age 17 born Birmingham? occ; bookbinder
John Llewelyn age 20 born Birmingham? occ; livery stables
William Hopkin age12 born Birmingham?
Morgan=Aberdare/Hirwaun
Thomas=Brecon/hirwaun
Havard=Brecon/Hirwaun
Beynon=Hirwaun
Perkins=llanboidy
Checkett=Lancaster
choake=plymouth/Lancaster
Birkett=Lancaster
Hughes=Corwen

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 May 06 13:58 BST (UK) »
As for Jenkin in 1901, there is a death jul qtr 1897 Jenkin David age 32 Bridgend vol 11a page 425.

Mary A David age 35 born Pyle widow occ; Inn Keeper
David W age 10 born Coytrahene
Lily A age 7 born Coytrahene
Living at Nicholls Arms Inn, Llangynwyd.
Morgan=Aberdare/Hirwaun
Thomas=Brecon/hirwaun
Havard=Brecon/Hirwaun
Beynon=Hirwaun
Perkins=llanboidy
Checkett=Lancaster
choake=plymouth/Lancaster
Birkett=Lancaster
Hughes=Corwen