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Help with Treorchy Births and Census
« on: Wednesday 24 May 06 17:23 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

Here I go, sounding stupid again!

New to family research in Wales and I am finding the areas at little confusing.

 I’m trying to find the birth and censuses for my g-gran.   She was born in Treorchy; does this come under Glamorgan or Carmarthenshire?
When searching the births and census, what area names should I be looking for?

Martha Jane Davies born c1891 - Fathers Name David Davies (Timber man in 1907)
Married John Vickers 4th Aug 1907 – Llanfair Church, Cumamman - Witnesses David D Davies & Maggie Davies   

I Have this information below after she married, but can’t find anything before she married.


John Vickers   c1885      Head   
Martha Jane Davis    c1891      Wife   
            
            
David Vickers   c1909      Son   Pontardawe
Minnie Vickers   c1911      Dau   Pontardawe
Mary Vickers   c1914      Dau   Pontardawe
William Vickers   c1918      Son   Pontardawe
Cyril Vickers   c1919      Son   Pontardawe
Lily Vickers   c1921      Dau   Pontardawe
         
Gwynneth Vickers   c1924      Dau   Pontardawe

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Barbara

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Re: Help with Treorchy Births and Census
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 May 06 17:51 BST (UK) »
HI Biddy18
The area Treorchy is ystradyfodwg . (All the Rhondda Valley)
A usefull site for all areas of England Wales is  www.genuki.org.uk
You say llanfair church  Cumamman (Cwmaman) do you know where that is? I cannot see a Llanfair church in Llanfair in Cwmaman which comes under Aberdare Glamorgan. Do you have the right spelling?or any other info.
will look at the rest of your reqiest next
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Read Wiltshire /Pontypridd
Dove Lincolnshire/Pontypridd/Cardiff
Barnhouse Cardiff/Pontypridd
Wilkes Shropshire/ Staffordshire/ Rhondda
Fletchers Staffordshire/ Glamorgan
Wright Somerset/ Glamorgan
Probert Cardigan/Rhondda/Shropshire
Jenkins Cardigan
Lewis Cardigan
Morgan Penderyn/Pontypridd
Stephens Penderyn
David Glamorgan
Whitby Forest Dean
Hughes Goodrich/Pontypridd
Jackson/Smith London /Kent/Glamorgan
Hughes Maesteg/Ynyshire

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Re: Help with Treorchy Births and Census
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 May 06 17:58 BST (UK) »
Hi
 births.. Martha Jane Davies Quater 4th district Pontadawe vol 11a page 694
                                             Qtr 1st   district Pontypridd vol 11a page 585
For the Rhondda reg office would be Pontypridd.
Interesting there is also the same name for Pontadawe
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Read Wiltshire /Pontypridd
Dove Lincolnshire/Pontypridd/Cardiff
Barnhouse Cardiff/Pontypridd
Wilkes Shropshire/ Staffordshire/ Rhondda
Fletchers Staffordshire/ Glamorgan
Wright Somerset/ Glamorgan
Probert Cardigan/Rhondda/Shropshire
Jenkins Cardigan
Lewis Cardigan
Morgan Penderyn/Pontypridd
Stephens Penderyn
David Glamorgan
Whitby Forest Dean
Hughes Goodrich/Pontypridd
Jackson/Smith London /Kent/Glamorgan
Hughes Maesteg/Ynyshire

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Re: Help with Treorchy Births and Census
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 May 06 18:12 BST (UK) »
May be some kind hunter will find them on the 1901 census do you know where John Vickers was born? and or David Davies?
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All CensusTranscriptions are Crown Copyright

Read Wiltshire /Pontypridd
Dove Lincolnshire/Pontypridd/Cardiff
Barnhouse Cardiff/Pontypridd
Wilkes Shropshire/ Staffordshire/ Rhondda
Fletchers Staffordshire/ Glamorgan
Wright Somerset/ Glamorgan
Probert Cardigan/Rhondda/Shropshire
Jenkins Cardigan
Lewis Cardigan
Morgan Penderyn/Pontypridd
Stephens Penderyn
David Glamorgan
Whitby Forest Dean
Hughes Goodrich/Pontypridd
Jackson/Smith London /Kent/Glamorgan
Hughes Maesteg/Ynyshire


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Re: Help with Treorchy Births and Census
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 May 06 18:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Cardiff,

First I would like to say, many, many thanks for the help!

Information on cert : Register of marriages in the district of Pontadawe

My auntie, who is full of information confirms 100% that Martha was born in Treorchy.

Advice please-  Would you go for the cert in Pontypridd?


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Re: Help with Treorchy Births and Census
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 May 06 18:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Cardiff,

I have most of the census on John Vickers and his family, he was born in Langley.

Martha's fathers name I got from the wedding cert.

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Re: Help with Treorchy Births and Census
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 May 06 18:23 BST (UK) »
Auntie, also confirms the Davies family was always from Pontadawe & surrounding area.

Barbara

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Re: Help with Treorchy Births and Census
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 May 06 19:17 BST (UK) »
Think this is a possible, only one I could locate in the area with father David.  This is in the Tyntyla/Ystrad area.

RG13/5015 Folio 177  Page 40
Ystradyfodwg

Address 16 Oddfellows Row, Rhondda

David Davies m, head, 38,  Mountain Ash, Glam (colliery timberman)
Margaret Davies wife, 35,  Merthyr,
Martha Davies dau, 11,  Ystradyfodwg
William J Davies son, 9  Ystradyfodwg   
Rachel Davies dau, 6  Ystradyfodwg   
David J Davies son 3,  Ystradyfodwg
Samuel T Davies son, 1,  Ystradyfodwg     
Thomas Isaac boader, 57  Crunwear, Pembrokeshire,

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RG12/4425 Folio 120  Page 56
Ystradyfodwg 

1891 same family with Martha only at 3 Oddfellows Row
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Help with Treorchy Births and Census
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 May 06 19:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Stallc,

This may be a possible.

MANY THANKS!

Barbara