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Re: EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD, DEATH C. 1872
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 24 July 16 16:25 BST (UK) »
25 Apr 1698   Married    John COLLINGWOOD husb of Mary BARKER(widow)   Stepney, St. Dunstan MDX  mariner of Wapping.


Jane Muscoe, married John Collingwood in 1714 in Barking, Essex. was a  *victualler in Ratcliffe, St. Dunstan, Stepney, Middlesex, England when he died. Probably retired mariner, for these were the trades of ex-mariners?
 His widow, Jane Collingwood, died in St. Ann's in Soho in the 1740's.

John Collingwood  died in Ratcliffe, about 1727 St. Dunstan, Stepney, Middlesex, England. In his will, he left his wife, Jane ( Muscoe ) Collingwood, property. His siblings mentioned in the will were Elizabeth Collingwood, Sarah Parker, William Collingwood, and George Collingwood. His will mentions a home or property in Surrey, England. After her death, it was left to John Collingwood's sister, Sarah Parker.

*Victuallers in Ratcliffe in the 18th century were  often  retired master mariners or  crafted seaman that had made enough money to safeguard their retirement as early as 45yrs of age.  Spending twenty to thirty years on ships it was one of the trades they could easily turn their hand to. Some married into trades owned by widows and the likely haunts of the seamen often gave them or at least the best able, an opportunity to 'get hitched' to the latest widowed landlady?

About Ratcliffe. This was a Parish of St Dunstan's and no longer officially exists. Situated between Shadwell and Limehouse, St Annes Where Edward Henry Collingwood was christened. 1817
 
Ratcliffe from the middle ages was a haunt of pirates, prostitutes, cut-throats, privateering and merchant shipping. If you lived in Ratcliffe, Wapping or Limehouse you were almost certainly involved in the shipping trades or trades associated with the sea and dockyards.
The 'Collingwoods' in the Wapping and Ratcliffe areas were nearly all related with an irritating affinity to 'John or Edward'. This often makes researching them difficult.
Some took on apprenticeships across the river at the Woolwich and Deptford Yards and settled there.

 Margaret Collingwood - husband a master mariner(Guinea coast - Slaver?), resided at Queen's Court,  leading off Farthing Fields. Highly probable that this is the mother of (Edward?)the Sawyer, b 1737  and apprenticed (about 1750 aged 13yrs -1757)?


16 Dec 1757    Edward John COLLINGWOOD   Woolwich Yard KEN    TNA   Foreman's apprentice to John Puckley of Woolwich yard; duty 9s paid @ 6d on £18/-/- on 24 Dec 1757 

Oct 1764   Married    Edward COLLINGWOOD husb of Elizabeth POINTER   Limehouse, St. Anne

18 Aug 1776   C    John Edward COLLINGWOOD son of John Edward & Elizth.   Stepney, St. Dunstan MDX    PR    age 13 days, father a sawyer of Poplar
                          (John Edward the Ropemaker 1776 - 1821 age 45yrs)
 
                                               
 05 Aug 1817   C    EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD son of John Edward & Elizabeth   Limehouse, St. Anne MDX        born 5 Jul 1817, father a ropemaker of Limehouse   

 

William and Jane Collingwood Parker had seven daughters and one son. The daughters were named Jane, *Sarah, Susanna, Harriet, Ann, Mary and Elizabeth. Harriet is the only daughter who never married.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/dljordan/parker-edwards.htm

John Collingwood  died in Ratcliffe, about 1727 St. Dunstan, Stepney, Middlesex, England. In his will, he left his wife, Jane ( Muscoe ) Collingwood, property. His siblings mentioned in the will were Elizabeth Collingwood, *Sarah Parker, William Collingwood, and George Collingwood. His will mentions a home or property in Surrey, England.

 After her death, it was left to John Collingwood's sister, *Sarah Parker

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Re: EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD, DEATH C. 1872
« Reply #37 on: Monday 25 July 16 23:25 BST (UK) »
I am currently researching my ancestors and as yet have nothing more to add at this stage, though some interesting accounts of my father have emerged during his 13yrs (1931-1944) as a Merchant Seaman, Alfred Daniel Collingwood,1914-1965 sailed US 1942-1944, Merchant CONVOY ships, Sourabaya, Ile de France, Empire MacMahon, British Merchant, Mauretania,



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Re: EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD, DEATH C. 1872
« Reply #38 on: Monday 15 August 16 20:53 BST (UK) »
Researching the Collingwoods that participated at the Old Bailey. Forward/Backward click -1685-1908

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18480515-name-918&div=t18480515-1350#highlight

Reference Number: t18480515-1350
Offence: Theft > simple larceny
Verdict: Guilty > no_subcategory; Guilty > no_subcategory
Punishment: Transportation

15th May 1848
1350. PATRICK BRYAN and JAMES KERR , stealing 12lbs, weight of copper, value 6s.;the goods of Duncan Dunbar; both having been previously convicted.
GEORGE WILSON. I am a constable of the East and West India Docks I was on duty on 14th April, about one o'clock, at the East India Dock basin—I saw prisoners and two other men come out of the import dock, and go out of the gate leading on to the Brunswick Wharf—I saw Bryan and one of the others run out of the gate—I informed some other officers—we all went out into the road, and saw the two prisoners and the other two menbryan looked bulky—I went up to him and said. "Bryan, you have got something about you; you must come inside"—I took him in, and found on him these four parcels of copper, two inside his waistcoat and two inside his trowsers—he said he had found it in the dust-bin—I had seen the prisoners leave the dock in the same directions, with the same two men, once previous to that.
JOHN WHITE. I am a constable of the dock. I was at the export dock gate when Willson stopped Bryan—I stopped Kerr—he said, "You won't want me; you want the other men that have run away"—I said, "I have got you and I shall keep you"—I searched him, and found 4lbs, of copper in the waistband of his trowsers—he said it was given him by a man in a public-house—Bryan said, "It is no use telling a lie about it; we may as well tell the truth."
EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD. I am in the employ of a shipwright I was employed in taking some copper off the ship Earl Grey, belonging to Mr. Duncan Dunbar—I threw the copper on the punt—I can swear to all this copper, except two pieces—it came off that ship—two of these pieces in particular I can swear to, and the other I have no doubt of—they were all in the punt, which was under the ship's acting as a stage for me to work at the vessel—I know this piece by my own marking on it, and this one by its acting as a brace under the pump case.
JAMES GATLOR. I am ship-keeper of the Earl Grey, and live on board I took the copper from the punt into the store, where it was kept—it belonged to Duncan Dunbar—I went to the store on the day after this copper was found, and it was all gone.
Kerr. Q. How long was the copper in the store before you missed it? A. About nine or ten days.
THOMAS PINNER. I was working for Mr. Gladstone—I went to the store shed between ten and eleven o'clock—I found the padlock broken—I told the officer—I found the prisoners in custody the same day.
SAMUKL GLADSTONE. I am superintendent to Mr. Duncan Dunbar. I know this copper—this is a piece we took off the cook's house—I sent this to the store-shed—this other came from the ship Westmeath, and was in the same shed—I saw the shed the day previous, and the lock was quite safe—both the ships belong to Mr. Duncan Dunbar.
Bryan's Defence. I passed by the dock officer; he saw no copper with me.
WILLIAM SOMES. I ama constable of the London Dock. I produce a certificate of Bryan's former conviction, at Clerken well—(read—Convicted Oct., 1847, and confined three months)—he is the person.
THOMAS HOLMES. I am an inspector of police. I produce a certificate of Kerr's former conviction, at this Court—(read—Convicted April, 1840, and transported for seven years)—he is the person.
BRYAN— GUILTY. Aged 28.
KERR— GUILTY. Aged 32.
Transported for Ten Years.

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/search.jsp?foo=bar&form=searchHomePage&_persNames_surname=collingwood&kwparse=and&start=40
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Re: EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOODterwa, DEATH C. 1872
« Reply #39 on: Monday 29 August 16 13:06 BST (UK) »
EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD, 1817 - 1878

     
  (Oct 2015) was the 137th anniversary of his death in Hong Kong. October 24th 1878
 Died from fever from exposure while fixing storm damage on Dharwar

http://goo.gl/eI3gTr


William Inkster 10 years later in 1888 was on his last voyage on the Dharwar.
He saved the ship from certain disaster by making good the ships damaged steering gear
in a devastating storm.
He became famous in his day as the shipwright that saved the Dharwar!

When not at sea both William Inkster and Edward Henry Collingwood worked as part-time
firemen.

William Inkster  of the Dharwar
http://goo.gl/OfHRee

Edward lived for some time at Gillender St (formally Masters Lane, that runs parallel to the A12 tunnel approach from about 1865) next to the now dis-used fire-station in proximity to the Poplar Seamans Hospital that closed in 1951 to make way for the Blackwall Tunnel entrance. Seven of his former addresses were demolished for the new Tunnel Approach widening scheme and the Poplar Housing / Lansbury market new developments - (Masters Lane, Ellerthorpe St, Cawdor St, Aberfeldy St, Dee St, Lochnagar St, and his birthplace Tuckers Court Alley was demolished for the expansion of the Poplar Workhouse and a school for the poor in Poplar High St, also to make way for the East-West India railway lines that now cut through Tuckers Court and Dolphin Lane  cutting off the access to the West India Docks - 1839.

Interestingly at this time, mid- 19th century the Duke of Wellington on order of Queen Victoria oversaw the huge task of cleaning up London's foul primitive sewerage systems, which, in fact were non-existant. Putrifaction of London's Streets and waterways was rife and his first task was the draining of the  moat around the Tower of London which proved to be the last resting place of hundreds of dead animals, horses, cats, dogs, farm animals and murdered people !

It would be another 30 years before Sir Joseph Basilgette began constructing London's tunnel sewers but open-sewers that ran almost everywhere into the canals were soon cleaned up under Victoria.
One such sewer, an open ditch ran from Poplar High St at the back of the Poplar Workhouse and Tuckers Court straight into the West India Dock a distance of 200m and sloped at such a narrow gradient that the muck deposited hardly moved and basically relied on rain and liquid slops to help carry it away. All rubbish was dumped into this open sewer and regularly had to be cleaned and flushed by common poor people recruited from the workhouse. British History Online mentions that Poplar's open sewers were referred to as 'Rolling Turd Alley'.

What an incentive for people living in close proximity to the filthy streets of London to get away and go to sea. Edward Henry had this sewer in his back alley and the sweet smell of the sea must have been a welcome alternative?




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Re: EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD, DEATH C. 1872
« Reply #40 on: Friday 02 September 16 20:30 BST (UK) »
My other thread is more up to date and accurate for the death of Edward Henry Collingwood.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=643111.81

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EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD, 1817 -1878
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 04 September 16 20:11 BST (UK) »
EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD, DEATH 24-Oct 1878


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Re: EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD, DEATH C. 1872
« Reply #42 on: Monday 05 September 16 00:16 BST (UK) »
The Shipwrights

Women bringing meals into the yard in baskets were often caught removing valuable items along with the "Chips". The taking of "chips" was abolished in May 1801 and was replaced by a daily payment. It was not uncommon for a worker to appear at roll call and then secretly leave the yard for the rest of the day, in order to relax or work at another paying job. Labour troubles were not uncommon in the dockyards, especially in times of particular national need as before or during a war. One method used by the Navy Board to deal with such disruptions was to press gang the ringleaders for sea service. Old workmen were permitted to keep their jobs long after they were fit to do them and many were allowed servants. They were often given light tasks such as sorting wedges, and mooting treenails , that is, finishing them into smooth cylinders of various gauges by means of a moot. When they died ,their servants stayed on, providing income for the widows. In 1764 the first scheme of superannuation (pension system ) was instituted for those who had served 30 years or more with the possibility of retiring on 2/3rd of basic pay.

http://www.djbryant.co.uk/dockyard/shipwrights/apprenticeships.htm

Inspector of Shipwrights was the first step in the salaried scale. The order of advancement was:
1. Working shipwright.
2. Quarterman of shipwrights.
3. Leading man of shipwrights.
4. Inspector of shipwrights.
5. Foreman of the Yard.
6. Senior foreman of the yard.
7. Assistant Master Shipwright.
8. Master Shipwright.
9. Surveyor of the Navy.

The first three grades were hourly paid , the later six ,salaried . In grades 6 to 9 men would have been employed in designing warships, managing the Dockyards and selecting timbers. An Acting Inspector would have been known as a Leading man until being placed on a salary list.

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Re: EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD, DEATH C. 1872
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 18 September 16 16:34 BST (UK) »
William Parker married Jane Collingwood on December 28, 1766. Jane Collingwood was born about 1740 and died about 1815. Her father was Captain Edward Collingwood, who was born about 1694 and died July 13, 1779 in Greenwich, England.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/dljordan/parker-edwards.htm

Parents
Edward Collingwood
1660-1721
Mary Bigge
1663-Unknown
Spouse(s)
Mary Rodham
1700-1783
Jane Carlton
1712-1791

Children
Winifred Collingwood
1744-Unknown
Carlton Collingwood
1746-1871
John Trevor Collingwood
1738-1796
Jane Collingwood
1740-1815
Edward Collingwood*    
1743-1809
Master Attendant at Deptford. Has been to Rye with Justly Watson, directing engineer, and have surveyed the Harbour Enclosure
Date:   1756 Dec 31

Francis Collingwood 
1745-1799

 {Francis Edward Collingwood  of Trafalgar 1785-1835} was the son of Francis Collingwood 1745-1799  of Greenwich Esq. by Sarah, sister of Captain Thomas Richbell RN, Chief Magistrate of the Thames Police.
https://archive.org/stream/cihm_37593/cihm_37593_djvu.txt

His grandfather, Edward Collingwood*, had been Master Attendant at Plymouth, Portsmouth, Chatham and Deptford Dockyards.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9231499


His great Grandfather was Captain Edward Collingwood, 1660-1721}



Many Collingwoods' made the connections from Ratcliffe and Wapping as they moved to the ship building yards, sawmills and roperies of Woolwich, Greenwich and Deptford shipyards. This should prove interesting and may lead us to the ship building yards and sawmills and roperies. The line from Edward Henry the shipwright through John the ropemaker Edward John the Sawyer, cousin to  Edward Collingwood* Master Attendant at Plymouth, Portsmouth, Chatham and Deptford Dockyards, looks to be the connection to Francis Edward Collingwood and his lineage to to Admiral Cuthbert Collingwood through Mary Bigge the Rodhams, Parkers and Carltons

 Edward was the son of Edward Collingwood (born about 1660 and died in 1721) and Mary Bigge (born about 1663). Captain Collingwood married twice. His first marriage was to Mary Rodham and his second to Jane Carlton. Jane Carlton was born about 1712 in Greenwich and died February 19, 1791 at the Royal Naval Hospital in Greenwich, England. Jane Collingwood was the daughter of Edward Collingwood by his second wife, Jane Carlton.

Admiral Sir William Parker was the eldest. His sister Sarah, was christened March 11, 1744 at Queenborough, Kent. She died unmarried December 4, 1791. A brother Augustine was christened Feb 9,1746 at Queenborough. A sister, Elizabeth Parker, was born October 11, 1748 at Queenborough, Kent, England. She married William Head on July 19, 1785 in Queenborough. A child named Elizabeth Head was born February 9, 1787 also at Queenborough, Kent, England. Another sister Susannah was born and died 1750. A younger brother, Capt. Robert Parker of HMS Intrepid was born April 8, 1753 and died Nov 23, 1797. He married and had 8 children

William and Jane Collingwood Parker had seven daughters and one son. The daughters were named Jane, Sarah, Susanna, Harriet, Ann, Mary and Elizabeth. Harriet is the only daughter who never married. The only son, William George, was born in 1787. He married August 29, 1808, Elizabeth Still, (born 1791)the daughter of James Charles Still of East Knoyle in County Wiltshire and Charlotte Wake. He left a large family and died a vice admiral March 24, 1848.( This information from the book "A Naval Biographical Dictionary" by W.R. O'Byrne published in 1849.) One of the daughters of William George Parker and Elizabeth Still was Fanny Catharine who married Charles Bligh in 1837 and died in 1894. One daughter was named Clara and another daughter, Elizabeth Charlotte was born in 1816 in England. Two of the sons married in Toronto. Melville Parker married Jesse Hector in 1847 and Albert Parker married Lucy Henrietta Jennings in 1851.

The second Admiral Sir William Parker lived from 1781 to 1866 and served as Admiral of the Fleet. He was born on December 1, 1781, the third son of George Parker of Almington, Staffordshire, England. George Parker, his father, was the second son of Sir Thomas Parker, who had been lord chief baron of the exchequer. Sir Thomas Parker's nephew was John Jervis, first earl of St. Vincent, who had married Martha Parker, George Parker's half-sister.

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Re: EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD, DEATH C. 1872
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 18 September 16 17:09 BST (UK) »
Commander Francis Edward Collingwood RN

Full text of "Royal naval biography, or, Memoirs of the services of all the flag-officers, superannuated rear-admirals, retired-captains, post-captains and commanders [microform] : whose names appeared on the admiralty list of sea-officers at the commencement of the year 1823, or who have since been promoted : illustrated by a series of historical and explagenatory notes, which will be found to contain an account of all the naval actions, and other important events, from the commencement of the late reign, in 1760 to the present period : with copious addenda"

{ This is  a very old document and contains many transcribed mistakes, however to find Francis Edward Collingwood's  Naval biography scroll to page 257 then to 2d8 (which is page 258 ?) about halfway through...very interesting especially the account of him being washed overboard to a certain death in a violent storm...and guess what?.....a huge wave throws him back on board into the rigging! }

https://archive.org/stream/cihm_37593/cihm_37593_djvu.txt