two People similar names

[j.tomi]

Hi Whilst searching for my ancestors i came across my ggg.gradfather William Low
married to Jean Peter whilst trying to search for any of there childern i came across two entries for births william low jane peter william low jean peter both had boys different years which one do i take as my ancestors it's quite confusing can anyone help
Regards
Jean

[MonicaL]

Hi Jean

A parent search on IGI for parents William Low and Jane Peter shows the following entries:

1. ANDREW LOW  Christening: 08 DEC 1822 Inverkeilor, Angus, Scotland
2. BETTY LOW Christening: 08 APR 1836 Arbroath, Angus, Scotland
3. JAMES LOW Christening: 31 AUG 1824 Saint Vigeans, Angus, Scotland
4. THOMAS LOW Birth: 19 APR 1846 Saint Vigeans, Angus, Scotland
5. ROBERT LOW Christening: 11 JUL 1826 Saint Vigeans, Angus, Scotland
6. DAVID FERRIER LOW Christening: 07 JUN 1838 Arbroath, Angus, Scotland
7. MARGARET LYALL LOW Christening: 08 FEB 1829 Arbirlot, Angus, Scotland
8. ANDREW LOW Christening: 08 APR 1834 Panbride, Angus, Scotland
9. WILLIAM LOW Christening: 04 OCT 1831 Panbride, Angus, Scotland

Their marriage shows as:

WILLIAM LOW  Marriages: Spouse:  JEAN PETER    
Marriage: 08 JUN 1822 Inverkeilor, Angus, Scotland

I would guess that the first born Andrew  in 1822 was their first born son who may have died. They look to have called another of their children by the same name, a not uncommon practice in those days.

Regards.

Monica

[Isles]

Hi Jean,
 
    You may have already viewed the 1841 Census of Arbroath but just in case.  here is the family you're researching:

Folio:9   Page:7

Timmer Green, Arbroath.

         William Low     40  Agricultural Labourer
         Jean       "        40
  Margaret       "        15   
     William       "        10
    Andrew       "          5
 Elizabeth        "         4
       David        "         2
           Ann Nicol       75  Pauper

All were born in the County of Angus.  James and Robert being 17 and 15 would probably be liiving elsewhere, while Thomas was not yet born.  Ann Nicol may be either William or Jean's mother.  I'll check the I.G.I.

Regards,
Isles

[j.tomi]

Thank you for the information
Jane Peter And Jean Peter Have different Parents this is my difficulty
both of them married a william low
i found the death entry for Jean Low Her Parent were Andrew Peter And Anne Peter Nee Nicoll Jane Peter Her Parents Were John Peter And Jane Ferrier cannot find a death entry for her yet? so you can see my dilema
i will keep trying
many thanks
Jean

[MonicaL]

Hi Jean

From the data you now have, the question is are you researching the descendants of William Low and Jane Peters as showing on the 1841 census and IGI. Certainly with the help of the 1841 census and seeing Ann Nicoll living there, this family has the Jane who's parents were Andrew and Ann N.  They also seem to have called their first born son after her father. The only marriage to a William Low showing on IGI is that of this Jane (remember in Scotland Jane = Jean).

Regards.

Monica

[j.tomi]

Hi
thanks for your time and effort i still have the problem these people have different parents  and differnet birth dates so i do no know which set to choose
anyway thank you for your time
Regards
Jean

[AMBLY]

Hi Jean

You say both Jean PETER (dau of Andrew PETER & Ann NICOL) and Jane PETER (dau of John PETER & Jane FERRIER) married a William LOW.

We can only see one marriage for a Jane/Jean PETER to a William LOW, which is that (we believe due to circumstantial evidence) of the daughter of Andrew & Ann  - do you have details of the other marriage?

We further believe all 9 children on IGI belong to the marriage found, and to that same couple on the 1841 Census. What reason do you have for believing this is not the case?

Sometimes in the early records, Jane or Jean could also end up as Janet, and Janet is not always soundexed as jean/Jane on IGI)

I guess one of your dilemma's is seeing William LOW & Jane/Jean PETER (dau of Ann NICOL) name one of their children: David Ferrier LOW (and he appears to be on the 1841 Census with these parents and his NICOL granny) - while  the OTHER Jane PETER you have, has a mother named Jane FERRIER........ 

Cheers
AMBLY

[Isles]

Hi again Jean,

I'm sending a little drop-line chart which I hope may help:

                   18 Feb 1785,
                       Arbroath.
          John Peter   =    Jane Ferrier
                              |
                              |     8 June 1822,
                              |     Inverkeilor.         
                    Jean Peter     =      Wm. Low
              b. 2 July 1796,
              St. Vigeans.

William and Jean had a son named David Ferrier Low which almost certainly proves that her parents were as shown above.  William's parentage is rather trickier as there are several "possibles" that would fit.  Perhaps it would be worthwhile searching the 1851 Census of Arbroath or St Vigeans to find his birth-place, and hopefully the names of his parents.

Regards,
Isles.


                 
                           
                     



         
                                 
                                   
 
                                     

[AMBLY]

Hi Isles.

Sorry............if I've missed something but why does William LOW and Jean / Jane PETER having a son named David Ferrier LOW prove her parents were PETER/FERRIER - any more than seeing William LOW & Jean/Jane PETER on the 1841 Census with an Ann NICOL in the house which happens to be the name of Jean PETER's mother???   I realise that  Census Ann NICOL may NOT be her mother, but to my mind this connection is perhaps a more likely "signpost" than the middle  name of a son (which could also be the name of a relative, a priest...). And not forgetting the LOW/PETER child named Andrew, seemingly after the PETER husband of Ann NICOL ......

If investigating middle names :  Who was child Margaret Lyall PETER named after?

And either way you look at it, the IGI births of the LOW children to William and Jane/Jean don't seem to fit a naming patterns for either parent scenario!  There is an Andrew, but no Ann.
There is a Jane, but no John.

And/or if there are 2 sets of parents and some of the children are not on IGI, the naming pattern theory  is out ...and not everyone stuck to it anyway,

Hi Jean:
Have as Isles suggests, you looked up the 1851 Census for the 1841 family or any other likely William LOW's?

Who informed of the death of Jean LOW (dau of PETER/NICOL), and does her address tie back in with other members of the family.

Who was the child  of your ggg-father William LOW who became your gg-grandparent?

For Ref: 
John PETER m Jane FERRIER - married 18 FEB 1785  Arbroath, Angus
ISSUE:
Agnes PETER Chr 05 JUN 1786 Saint Vigeans, Angus
Robert PETER Chr 18 NOV 1787 Saint Vigeans, Angus,
John PETER Chr  16 JUL 1789 Saint Vigeans, Angus
Margaret PETER  Chr  07 FEB 1791 Saint Vigeans, Angus
Euphemia PETER  Chr 14 OCT 1792 Saint Vigeans, Angus (married 1825 St Vig?)
Anne PETER Chr 01 DEC 1793 Saint Vigeans, Angus
James PETER Chr 05 APR 1795 Saint Vigeans, Angus
Jane PETER Chr 02 JUL 1796 Saint Vigeans, Angus
Charlotte PETER Chr 30 OCT 1797 Saint Vigeans, Angus (married 1828 St Vig?)
Mary PETER Chr 21 AUG 1799 Saint Vigeans, Angus, Scotland
Charles PETER Christening: 14 JUN 1801 Saint Vigeans, Angus, Scotland
James PETER Christening: 16 APR 1803 Saint Vigeans, Angus, Scotland

Cheers
AMBLY