Am on on the right track - ROBERTS

[Ann W]

Hi there.

Just need to get this clear, that i am on the right track, l

Gr granparents were Joseph WORWOOD  who married Ann Ellen ROBERTS in 1895
district of conway. carnasvon




following Ann Ellen's family

father is Rees Roberts stonemason
witness were james Condon and Maggie Roberts.


Ann Ellen was born about 1874

1891
Rees  1854
mary 1845
ann e  1875
richard 1876
margaret 1880
evan  1882

In 1881 Anne Ellen b 1874   RG 11/5581 folio 127 pg 10
mother mary  1845
son richard 1876
margaret 1880   ( could this be maggie)

Father
rees  b 1853  in " Her majestys prison"    WHY
RG11/5568 folio 41 pg 29



found Rhys Roberts marrage to mary JONES  1873   11b 972

going back before the marriage
1871 Rees b 1853 servant.

1861 
Rees  b 1800 head
Catherine b 1803
Alice b 1842 un mar  dau
mary b 1846 un mar dau
elizabeth 1855 granddaughter
rees b 1854 was a grandson..

back to 1851
looking for Cathrine  1803  is there with her daughter Elizabeth b 1838.

now i am confused
1841
i have a cathrine 1803
but the head seems to be Edward.b 1803
H0107/1391/17 37 2

i must have the wrong cathrine.. same birth place.....

[Tati]

Hi Ann,

Don't you think this is the family in 1841?
HO107/1394/1 19 4

Do you know whose child Rees 1853 is? 

Tanja 

[Tati]

Oops!! Just wondering whether we are tracing the right Rees.

I see 2 possible chaps in 1881:

The prisoner, and another born Beddgelert Caernarvon!! (named Rice)
RG11 5566  28  5
but he's unmarried!

[Ann W]

No i dont know who the parents of Rees 1853 is,,,, cant put in grandparents with out parents,, ??

thought having a crim would make the family tree interesting  lol lol

ann

thanks will have a look now...

[Gadget]

Ann

Are you sure that you have the correct Catherine in the 1841? I see that you find a Catherine with an Elizabeth (b. 1838) in the 1851 but not the subsequent ones and where were Alice (b 1845)  and Mary (b 1846) in the 1851?

I suspect that there were two Catherine Roberts in that area and born roughly the same time (not a very uncommon name) and you have found them both. Have you looked for the other Catherine in the 1861? The 1841 usually recorded ages in 5 year bands for those of 15 or over, although some 'raw' ages were recorded.

Alternatively, Edward might have died and Catherine could have married Rees (first child Alice ?).  This is worth checking as well - death and marriage and birth reg for children.

Gadget

[Tati]

I think the 1841 reference I gave you matches the 1851 family. However, I see there are several Rees/Rice Roberts and am not sure the one you are tracing back from 1861 on is the right chap.

Then of course, there isn't one born Llanaelhaiarn - my God, how do they pronounce these names    -  before 1871.

[Ann W]

thanks for that , i did get lost with all the ROBERTS -  then i looked into the JONES, my gosh , there lots of them to.

in 1839  an edward Roberts m catherine OWEN  or she married Robert roberts    pwlhelele

1838 edward roberts m catherine WILLIAMS  Llanrwst

1842  Edward roberts m Catherine PRICE  BANGOR  ANGLESEY//


These names are so differcult for me... i get confused , dont even know if i am in the right area,,  and every census seems to have a different birth place and i cant match them..

Thanks so much for helping..

i am so excited about finding more of this family,,, thinking Rees cant be a common name, yea right..

[Ann W]

Tanja - glad you find the names hard to,,, thought Maori names like "Whakarewarewa" were bad enough...

Still havent looked - will look at now...


    

[Gadget]

 thinking Rees cant be a common name, yea right..

You wanna bet  Have you found a marriage for them at all - try Rhys as well.

Gadget - with lots of  Roberts and Jones in her tree