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Re: 1841 census Belper - Walker
« Reply #9 on: Monday 12 June 06 20:52 BST (UK) »
Wow! All this information.

The Hunt theory looks good, particularly the 1851 census extract for the Marketplace, Belper as my James Attenborough/Attenbury was a brickmaker born in 1823 but in Stapleford.
TJames & Ann can be found in the 1871 census at Flixton, Lancashire (RG10/3972 Folio 179) with two more brick making Attenborough families nearby at RG10/3972/Folio 161 and RG10 /3972 Folio 172.

I think I need some time to absorb all the information provided by so many helpful people.

Thanks again.

Regards,

Ian

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Re: 1841 census Belper - Walker
« Reply #10 on: Monday 12 June 06 21:18 BST (UK) »
Ian,

I'll send you a copy of the 1841 census with a James Attenborough and his family in Heage, nr ripley. Seems like the one - mixture of coal mining and brick making in the family. I'm starting to wonder if James mught even have been married three times as only one crops up on the census' and there is also an earlier marriage in 1842 Belper (although he would be barely 20 at most.

I think i have found his wife and a child on the 1851 - in South Winfield there is a Mary ann Hunt Attenborough aged 7 mths and a mother given as Mary Ann Alton (name of people next door). Despite this discrepency the reason i think this is definitely her (apart from name of daughter) is that she is also lodging with a William Attenborough whose details tie in with a brother of James. What she is doing there with a 7 month old daugther is anybody's guess!

I'll leave you in peace now - happy unscrambling!

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Re: 1841 census Belper - Walker
« Reply #11 on: Monday 12 June 06 23:29 BST (UK) »
Hi
Think that Daisypetal has the answer

1st Marriage on IGI
Ann Walker   Father  Isaac Walker
married 19.2.1843 Crich Derbyshire
Matthew Hunt Father Matthew Hunt
THIS WOULD BE BELPER REGISTRATION DISTRICT.

If Mathew died 1845 would explain why on 1851 Census she is a widow living
with her Father Isaac Walker in Belper.

On the 1871 Census Flixton the daughter Hannah Attenborough states born in Oakerthorpe Derbyshire.

This should give a clue as to Birth Registration, sorry I do not know what
Registration District Oakerthorpe comes under, but I think you need to look
for a Hannah Hunt because the 2nd Marriage to James Attenborough did
not take place until June 1857.

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Re: 1841 census Belper - Walker
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 10:55 BST (UK) »
I think you need to look
for a Hannah Hunt because the 2nd Marriage to James Attenborough did
not take place until June 1857.
 

Unless she is from James and Mary Ann's marriage - seems quite likely as Mary Ann's mother is Hannah. Wonder when Mary Ann died? Will have a look.
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge


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Re: 1841 census Belper - Walker
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 11:08 BST (UK) »
There is an 1855 death for a Mary Ann Attenborough in Belper district on FreeBMD - would fit nicely if it is her.

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: 1841 census Belper - Walker
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 11:18 BST (UK) »
Don't think this has been mentioned. In 1861 nextdoor to James and Ann is
Isaac Walker Widower 70 Nailmaker born Belper
in household of
Patrick and Sarah Corfield. Sarah is 30 born Belper - Ann's sister perhaps ???

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: 1841 census Belper - Walker
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 11:29 BST (UK) »
You may be interested in this Ian

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/Belper/StruttSchoolindex.html

Ann Walker daughter of a Nailer is there at least twice once age 8 once age 9.

Other family members are probably there as well

Jan ;)

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: 1841 census Belper - Walker
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 15 June 06 20:47 BST (UK) »
First of all, many thanks to all who responded to my initial request. Sorry for the delay in responding, but I've been working away from home.

Now to summarise all the evidence presented by my learned colleagues, in chronological order:

1823 Ann Walker attends school in Belper.

1841 Ann Walker (15) recorded, living with her parents Isaac Walker(50), Nail maker and Hannah Walker(40), cotton spinner.

1841 James Attenborough(15) living with his family at Heage.

1843 Ann Walker marries Matthew Hunt on 19 Feb 1843 at Crich.

1845 Matthew (Hunt)Walker dies Q2 at Belper

1847 James Attenborough marries Mary Ann Hunt Q4 at Derby.

1851 Ann Hunt(28), widow, Employed in cotton spinning factory, recorded at 21 Birkin Court, Belper living with her father Isaac Walker(60), widower, retired nail maker.

1851 James Attenborough(28), married, brickmaker recorded at Market Place, Belper living with his in-laws.

1851 Mary Ann (Alton?) Attenborough(25) recorded at South Winfield with her daughter Mary Ann Hunt Attenborough(7mths)

1853 Hannah Attenborough born at Oakerthorpe.

1855 Mary Ann Attenborough(nee Hunt) dies at Belper.

1857 Ann Hunt(nee Walker) marries James Attenborough Q2 at Derby

1859 Isaac Attenborough born at Short Rows, Belper to James and Ann Attenborough(nee Walker)

1861 JAMES (H)Attenborough(40, Collier recorded at Short Row, Belper with his wife Ann(38), Mill hand, daughter Hannah(8 ), daughter Ann(3) and son Isaac (1) living next door to Ann’s father Isaac Walker(60), widower, Nail maker.

I hope I got it all right, but if I didn't please let me know.
Thanks again for all the information.

Regards,

Ian

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Re: 1841 census Belper - Walker
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 15 June 06 20:58 BST (UK) »
Think that sums it up.  A good story has been pieced together. Of course only certificates will confirm we have the right people marrying and dying and whether Hannah was born to James and Mary Ann or to Ann Hunt between marriages. Isaac Walker needs thanking for being very helpful on censuses :D

Happy hunting
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge