DANCING MASTER

[jaywit]

It's not  an appaulingly badly written Naish is it?

[liverpool annie]

Nichole ??

 

[Gadget]

I've had another look now on my big machine.
Off to find him in SP.

Can't find a match - but I've found a Joseph Nichol, 19, Tailor in Dumfries on the 1851 - maybe 

And the image is now saying to me  - Joseph Nichol, Dumfriesshire.

Gadget

[runner]

Hi Gadget

I agree with the Joseph Nichol bit  then get totally cross-eyed on the next two scrawls.
Bringing up the size just makes it worse.

Earlier you thought you were speaking to the ether with no ears out there.
Reality is when you speak we all wait with bated breath !!
Were all here !    Honest   

Russell

[Gadget]

Well I can't find a bpt record for Joseph Nichol who would have been born circa 1831-2. I've found two possible Mary Clarks - b.c. 1828-30. I haven't checked Thomas - thought someone else might have a go on the IGI.
It depends whether we're interested in biological or social paternity 

Not too good on a laptop - got posted before I'd finished!

Russell - I'm not sure what stuff of mine you read

Gadget

[liverpool annie]

This is what you said ...

(I have the feeling that I'm talking to myself !!)

I'll have a look in a bit ..... 

[Gadget]

Annie

At least you talk back 

Could you check all three names on the IGI please. Thomas was 43 on the 1861 which would make him born circa 1818-19 ish. He says Sanquar.

Hopton tells me my eyes are tired so that will be all for now. Night 

Gadget

[Foz]

Good morning all,

WOW !!    I never expected as many replies as this,  thank you very much.  I've posted this request
before and got no replies at all so this is a wonderful surprize.
I can't read that handwriting at all so I'm completely in your hands Gadget !!
Thanks so much for your help,  I'll sit and study this info later on in the day when I've got more time
and see if I can gain any more details.
Thanks once again.             

Foz

[Gadget]

Good morning Foz

This is a summary of my findings - easier than following above in some ways:

I could not find the birth of a John Hairstens and variations, so I checked out his marriage cert. Here, it states that his parents were Thomas Harstens (gardener) and Mary Hairstens nee Clark  - He gives his age as 23.

I then went to check on their marriage and only found one - Thomas Hairsteens,  m Mary Clark in Troqueer, Kirkcudbright. Thomas was a widower. Mary was a housholder and Beekeeper, spinster.

No John Hairstens/variations around this time so checked a John Clark. Found a birth of John Clark on 29 April 1858, Troqueer. 39 Church Street, Maxwelltown, illegitimate. Mother Mary Clark, father (now we know) Joseph Nichol or Nichole, resident of Dumfrieshire.

Check the 1861 census for confirmation of this and find Thomas Hairsteens, gardener, aged 43, born Sanquar, Mary Hairsteens, 32, born Troqueer,  and John Hairsteens, son, aged 3, born Troqueer, living at 39 Church Street, Maxwelltown.

Checked for a Joseph Nichol, found one in 1861, aged 19, tailor (ap) , living at 6 Academy St, New Church, Dumfries, aged 19, nephew of Thomas Nichol, shoemaker. All born Dumfries

Mary Clarks parents, from marriage cert - John Clark, labourer, deceased and Jane Clark, nee ? Summersomething (might have to put up for reading), deceased
Thomas Hairsteens parents, from marriage cert - John Hairsteens, farmer, deceased and Margaret Hairsteens, nee ? Pedine

So the answer to your question is: birthdate - 29th November 1858, Troqueer, Kirkcudbright. His parents - Mother is Mary Clark; social father - Thomas Hairsteens; biological father is Joseph Nichol.

I'll go and have a look at your McGowan thread now.


Gadget