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Offline welshjo

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No father listed - help?????
« on: Monday 19 June 06 09:09 BST (UK) »
I an trying to trace the parents of my 2 x great grandmother, Jennet Davies, born 1866 in Maesteg area. I located a birth certificate for a younger brother Gwilym born 1881. This gave their parents as William Davies and Margaret Davies formerly Stradling.

I found a marriage certificate in 1857 for a Margaret Stradling and a William David - son of Evan David.
But there is no father listed for Margaret. Where do I go next.
With a name like Stradling I thought this line would be easier than my usual Jones, Evans, Williams, Thomas and Griffiths efforts!!!
Jones, Davies, Evans, Williams, Daniel, Thomas - Glamorgan
Keen, Goodwin, Pyatt, Leese, Bailey, Loffill, Stubley, Brassington, Blurton,  - Staffs

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Re: No father listed - help?????
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 June 06 09:26 BST (UK) »
Do you know how old Margaret was at marriage as i have a few Margaret Stradling's listed on the baptisms index. If i can help let me know.
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Actually ignore that for margaret as they are all 1700s! DUH!!!

I would suggest baptism registers but the one i have is pre 1837 so it does not seem to be of much help. I have checked the smaller registers i have too and i cant find Margaret. Have you asked Maesteg if they have a birth record for Margaret post 1837??
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Re: No father listed - help?????
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 June 06 09:26 BST (UK) »
The absence of  a father's name from a full birth certificate is about always a sign that the mother was unmarried at the time of the birth. Not a very rare occurrence even back then.
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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Re: No father listed - help?????
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 June 06 09:51 BST (UK) »
what's Margaret's age on the certificate? There aren't that many Margaret Stradlings on the Glamorgan census. One in particular looks good:-

1851 Bridge St, Maesteg, Llangynwyd H0107/2461 folio 96 pg 16
Janet Stradling widow 53 b. Neath Vale
William son u 23 miner b. Coety
Ann dau u 16 domestic servant
Margaret u 12(age difficult to read on Ancestry, perhaps someone has another version of 1851?) Nurse
John son 7
last 3 all born Llangynwyd

1841 hamlet of Cwmdu, village of Maesteg H0107/1422/16 folio 45 pg 15
Jannet Stradling 40 labourer
William 12
Sarah 10
Ann 7
Margaret 1

no husband in sight, so who was John's father as this is before his birth?
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: No father listed - help?????
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 June 06 10:28 BST (UK) »
Margaret was 42 in 1881 census so would be born around 1839 - probably in the Maesteg area
Jones, Davies, Evans, Williams, Daniel, Thomas - Glamorgan
Keen, Goodwin, Pyatt, Leese, Bailey, Loffill, Stubley, Brassington, Blurton,  - Staffs

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Re: No father listed - help?????
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 June 06 12:28 BST (UK) »
I am not having any luck with Margaret but if the above details are correct i have pm'd you info of possible parents marriage at Coity. Its the only possible match but if its not them let me know and i will look again.
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