Sarah Spencer born c1807 Llandaff

[Siouxzie]

LDS site is down for maintencance today, so I am having trouble looking for Sarah's origins.

 According to the 1881 census she was born in Landaff, Glamorgan.  In 1881 she is listed as unmarried and 74 and living in Somerset.  Can anyone find a likley candidate on an early Glamorgan census.

Thanks
Siouxzie

[rhys]

Hello
The following may be the family in 1851
Rhys

1851 Glamogan
LLANISHEN
HO107 2454 F 205 P 2
Mill Farm
all Spencer
George h Wid 44 Somerset Weare
James s u 15 Glam Lanishen
Lewis s u 9               do
Nibeck or Rebeck  Mother W 73 Retire Farming  Somerset Badgworth
Sarah sister u 43 Housekeper Glam Landaff
+ 2 Servants
George was a farmer of 176 acres employing 4 Labourers

[Siouxzie]

oh thanks Rhys,
That's looking good for them isn't it, what with the head of the family and his mother being born Somerset.  That might explain what she's doing there in 1881. 

Gives me something to work with anyway - thank you for your time

Siouxzie

[rhys]

Hi
 Have found her in 61 and 71.
Will post shortly
Rhys

[rhys]

Hello Again
1861 and 1871 as follows
 I have found George and family in 1841.
No luck wth the others as yet.

Rhys

1861 Glamorgan
RG9 4030 F 39 P1
Llanishen
Mill Farm

All Spencer
George h w 57 Som Were
Rebecca mother w 84 Annuitant Som Badgworth
Sarah sister u 53 Housekeeper Glam Llandaff
James s u 25 Farmers son Glam Lanishen
Lewis s u 19             do                do
+2 Servants
George was a farmer of 150 acres employing 2 labourers and 2 boys

1871 SOMERSET
RG10 2455F 22 P 11
Weare
ALLERTON
Elizabeth Mapstone h w 75 Land owner Som Weare
Sarah Spencer  niece u 59 Independant Glam Llandaff
+ 1 servant

[Siouxzie]

Wonderful Rhys,
So that's how she moved to Allerton - a family member is living there.  My interest in Sarah is because in 1881 on the census she has my relative Bessie Waters living with her and she is listed as cousin and companion.  I am hoping if I can find how she is connected to Bessie, it might help with finding out about Bessie's parents more.  Bessies mother is Frances Findon and her father Walter Waters and I'd love to know which she is connected to, one of Bessies brothers was named Spencer Waters, obviously after this Spencer line of the family.  Both Frances and Walter hail from the Andover area of Hanmpshire though, so no clues there as to how and to whom the Spencers are connected.

Thank you for all the look ups

Siouxzie

[rhys]

Hello again
The following appear to be the only possibilities in 1841

Rhys

1841 Somerset
HO107 92/8 f 34 p 5

Wedmore
West Houghton
Rebecca Spencer 63   Ind   Y
Sarah Barns 15  FS    Y
 

1841 Somerset
HO107 932/1 f 6 p 4
 
Chapel Allerton
Court House
George Mapstone 40 farmer Y
Elizabeth Mapstone 45   Y
Sarah Spencer 30 Ind  N
? Ball (female) 40 Ind Y


1841 Glamorgan
 HO107 1418/ 4 f 5 p 3&4

Lanishen
Mill Farm
All Spencer
George  37 farmer N
Allice  37 Y
Richard 6 Y
James 5 Y
John 3 Y
George 1 Y

[Siouxzie]

You are a star

Now it's up to me to find out how all these families are related - you've just thrown Mapstone into the mix for me.

Sarah Spencer is Elizabeth Mapstone's niece and Bessie Waters is Sarah Spencer's cousin. 

At least I seem to be able to use the iGI again now, not that it is giving me anything at the moment.

Siouxzie

[bicker]

Hi there

Not sure whether this will help but there is a web site for the Mapstone family, it  is

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/stanmapstone/myhomepage/famtree.html

Quite a lot of my husbands family from the villages around Somerset settled in Wales. We have Spencer probably from the Wedmore area which is not too far from Weare. but I have only gone back as John Spencer 1860. I will made a note and see what I can find
Regards Heather