Slater: Wouldn't have a clue where to start.

[exessexgirl]

Hi Daisy and Mobo  .  thank you both for the 1871 census information, and the death entry for Ellen Slater. The 1871 details showed another child that I hadn't found  . Your input is very much appreciated.  Lyn

[Mobo]

 

Hi Lyn,

Looks like you've got a problem surname with REDDIN !

I checked the births on 1837online between 1847-1850 and there is defininitely no birth for an Ellen REDDIN (or anything similar).   Also I can't find her (using every variant) on the 1861 or 1851.  Which leads me to think her surname was probably mis-spelled at marriage.

As Thomas was born in Ireland, and the birth doesn't appear on the IGI, it suggests he was possibly nonformist (ie. Roman Catholic), which leads me to suspect that Ellen was too, and her surname could have been transcribed as Reading, Readin, Rudden, Reddin, Rowden, Riorden, etc. etc.

The only way you'll crack this mystery, as I said before, is to send for the marriage certificate, which will give both fathers' names and occupations.  This will not only help you find their families on the Census Returns, (where the County of Thomas's birth might be shown), but if they married in an RC Church, there could also be more information in the Register, ie. Michael's county of birth, possible sibling witnesses etc.   A letter to the parish priest of the church in question (with a small donation) usually throws up more information.

You might like to try this thread on Irish Ancestry

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,78216.0.html

 

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

If there is a question about the REDDIN name being correct, you may want to get a birth certificate for one of the children, I found this one which looks promising 

Thomas Dennis SLATER  Sep Q  1868  Clerkenwell  v.1b  p.614

Daisy

[suzard]

There is a birth reg FreeBMD

Ellen Rosina Rearden
Dec qtr 1845
Holborn dist
Middlesex
2 156

Death reg indicates she was b abt 1846
1871 census indicates b abt 1846
with the above birth reg being last qtr 1845 it would fit in with census and death reg

Suz

[exessexgirl]

Hi again Daisy, Mobo and Suz.  Thank you all for your postings. Daisy, it looks as though the birth you have found for a Thomas Denis may well be the correct one, as on the 1871, he is shown as Thomas Denis Slater, so thank you very much for that  Mobo I agree with you about the incorrect spelling of the surname Reddin. The birth registration kindly provided by Suz looks very promising. I am currently going through the Irish threads. I will send off for a couple of the certificates, but it will have to wait for a couple of weeks, as I am awaiting the arrival of 3 others I have ordered for other individuals  It gets a bit pricey this certificate lark  Thank you all for your help. I've saved all the info and will follow it up.  Lyn

[Mobo]

There is a birth reg FreeBMD

Ellen Rosina Rearden
Dec qtr 1845
Holborn dist
Middlesex
2 156
Suz

That's great Suz, and you're so right about certificates being a costly business Lyn, so armed with this new info, I found:

1851 Census
HO.107/14?7
Vineyard Gardens
Clerkenwell
Middlesex

Denis REARDEN/Head/38/Plasterer/Cork, Ireland
Johanna REARDEN/Wife/28/Poplar, Middlesex
Ellen REARDEN/Dau/5/Holloway, Middlesex
William REARDEN/Son/3/Holloway, Middlesex
Joahanna REARDEN/Dau/2/Clerkenwell, Middlesex
Emily REARDEN/Dau/2months/Clerkenwell, Middlesex

This looks like them - the father is called DENIS, (the middle name of Ellen's son), the mother is called Johanna, like Ellen's daughter, and father's a plaster like her husband !!  Hopefully, there will be a CORK connection too, which could be very exciting !!

 

[Mobo]

 

A Dennis REARDON married
in 1843 in Pancras, Middlesex
December Qtr  1b 293

And next to him on the same page

is a Johanna O'BRIEN

which looks like this couple.

 

[Paul E]

From 1851, the Slaters (or Slators, as they're transcribed):

St Pancras, Marylebone,

Peter Slater, 40, Head, Labourer, Galway
Mary Slater, 34, Wife, Galway
Thomas Slater, 14, Son, Galway
Elizabeth Slater, 12, Daur, Scholar, Galway
Edward Slater, 9, Son, Birkenhead
Maria Slater, 6, Daur, Birkenhead
Michaell Slater, 8 months, Son, London

all living at 18 Lower Cambridge Street, sharing a house with 5 other people, non-related.

Hope this also helps

Paul

[exessexgirl]

Hi Peter, Suz and Mobo  Well you have all done brilliantly. Thank you so much for the latest information. So Peter and Mary Slater and their first 2 siblings were born Galway Ireland, and left sometime after 1839, as their next child was Birkenhead abt 1842. So it look as though we have a Galway / Cork connection. I'll try putting a posting on the Ireland message board. My aunt always asid there was an Irish connection in the family, but didn't know who it was. Maybe you have found it for us  . Once again, thank you so very much for your time and help with this.  Lyn