1841 Census Southwark - SUTTON - also 1851 census

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I am seeking the 1841 census entry for the following family - who were living at 80 Broadwall, Southwark, Surrey in November 1839:-

James Thomas Sutton (born c1806) - sailmaker
Eliza Sutton (nee Clifford)
William John Sutton - son - born May 1836 - Southwark
Hannah Jane Sutton - born 1837
James Thomas Sutton - born November 1839

The next traces I have of any of the family are James (junior) 1861 - at sea on HMS Emerald, and Hannah Jane marrying Thomas Abbot of Hitchin, Herts, in 1855.

Many thanks in anticipation.


Jan

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After over a year, I am still seeking  the 1841 census entry for James and his family - also, I am trying to find him in 1851.

His son James married Henrietta Harriett Knobbs in 1860 - and that is the only trace of him between his birth and the 1861 census entry .

Any trace of him - I keep checking the census entries but can't see any of them anywhere!!

Any help or advice appreciated

Thanks

Jan

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Found this burial

James SUTTON
Date of burial - 21st June, 1840
aged 33yrs.
Place of burial - St. Saviour, Southwark
Address at death - Kings Head Inn

[jjq]

Hi
Thanks for that reference - I will follow it up. The only problem is that there are quite a few Sutton families in the area. Still, at this stage, I am going to follow up every possible clue. I'll let you know what progress ( or lack of it!) has been made.


Still looking for the son (my great grandfather!!)

Thanks again.


Jan

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Well, I checked out the reference - but the James Sutton who died at the Kings Head in 1840 was a Book keeper - though the witness was a Charlotte Sutton, which I will follow up as James's mother was possibly a Charlotte.

I ordered a couple of other certificates (death) more in hope than expectation - but no success.

1844 Bethnal Green - was a 2 month old child
1845 Bethnal Green was a 3 month old child

What would have been the earliest that James (junior) could have gone to sea?

So - still trying to knock down this brick wall!  Can find Eliza's (nee Clifford) family though - so not all bad news!

Jan

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Found another burial, and apologies for missing it first time round.


James SUTTON
9th April, 1837
Aged 32yrs.
Address at Death - St. Saviour Southwark
Place of burial - Independent Chapel, Southwark


Whoops, just realised it can't be this one, with a child being born 1839.

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Oh - what a shame - and it could have been so right!!!

Thanks for letting me know anyway - I will just have to keep plodding on!

I can find a family of Sutton's on the IGI  - Richard and Charlotte who have several children including a James born 1806 ---- but I need to fill in the gaps and link them. Where was James in 1841/1851? I begin to think I will never know!

Many thanks once again.

Jan

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Another burial

Charlotte SUTTON
13th May, 1816
aged 4 months
Place of burial - St. S.S.
Address at death - not recorded


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Richard SUTTON
D of B - 26th April, 1829
P of B - St. S.S.
aged 51 yrs.
A at D - Red Cross Street

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Now I am greatly puzzled. Was checking Broadwall in 1841 and on one page, the numbers go from 52 to 98 and so on. I wonder what its about. Did the ennumerator get tired and skip a bit, most peculiar.