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Offline trish251

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Re: Alderney Census Look Up please
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 July 06 01:29 BST (UK) »
I couldn't find a marriage for Isaac Smale on the AVRI, but I found an Isaac Small married in Victoria 1878 to Margaret Ann Miller. Is this your man? Do you have the marriage certificate?

There is a baptism in NSW of Isaac T Small - father William Mother Sarah - 1854. Any likelihood of this being your man?

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 July 06 02:22 BST (UK) »
Trish - yes you are quite correct - from their daughters birth certifictate we have the following information

father Isaac Smale b Alderney age 26 in July 1884 making his year of birth around 1858
mother Margaret Annie Smale (nee Miller) born Portland Victoria age the same as Isaacs
Marriage showing on this certificate as April 18th 1878 in Belfast Victoria

Not sure about the NSW birth in 1854

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We don't have the marriage certificate yet, we have so far been concentrating on getting NZ certificates with his marriage certificate will hopefully clarify his place of birth.

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Re: Alderney Census Look Up please
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 July 06 07:25 BST (UK) »
This is the Small/Smale family (clearly written as Small) on the 1851 census in Alderney

1851 census HO107 2531 folio 546
St Anne  Alderney   
George Small 22  Jersey, Channel Islands Head  Married Mason
Selina Small 22  Guernsey, Channel Islands Wife Married
Georgia Small 1  Guernsey, Channel Islands Daughter 
Wm Bowles 35  England Cousin  St Anne  Alderney Married Mason
plus 1 lodger 

Marriages Dec 1861
Batten  Caleb     Stoke D  5b 578   
Smale  Selina     Stoke D.  5b 578   
Small  Selina     Stoke D.  5b 578   

1861 census RG9 1452 folio 15
45 Granby Street Stoke Damerel  Devon 
Selina Small 33  Guernsey Isle Of Head Widow Housekeeper
Georgeann Small 11 Jersey Isle Of Daughter
Selina Small 7  Alderney Isle Of Daughter 
Emily Small 3  Devonport Daughter  (the Henry of the 1871 census?)

Marriages Dec 1876
Smale  Georgina Woodward     Stoke D  5b 623
Rowe  Richard     Stoke D.  5b 623
Marriages Sep 1879
SMALE  Selina Mary     Stoke Damerel  5b 552
Norton  William John     Stoke Damerel  5b 552

Selina is visiting her sister Georgina on the 1881 census.

This leaves the possibility of Emily/Henry being Isaac though his/her birth is given consistently as Devonport on both censuses. I can't see a birth registration for a Henry/Isaac Small/Smale between 1856-1858 in Stoke Damerel registration district. I didn't check for an Emily.

This website gives details on who to contact for information on civil registration in Alderney.

http://user.itl.net/~glen/alderney.html

1841 census HO107 1461/11 folio 25 page 7
26 Hue Street Channel Islands St Helier  Jersey   
Mary Small 35  England Charwoman
Jane Small 10  Jersey 
George Small 12  Jersey Mason ap.
Jane Finch 60  England   
Thos Lea 30  England Mason

However you really do need Isaacs marriage certificate for his parents information. There were other Smalls living on Alderney at the time of the censuses.
1841 4
1851 8
1861 5
1871 3

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Valda
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Re: Alderney Census Look Up please
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 July 06 07:44 BST (UK) »
You can get the Victorian certificate online
http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/servlet/bdm_home
Cost about $17.50 I think. If you ask on the Oz immigrants board someone will look up the number for you. I'm a little wary of the AVRI - prefer to check on the Vic CDs (and I don't have the early one).

I do not know whether a Vic certificate of that time would list parents - I have a Qld one from 1867 which lists parents, a NSW one from 1873 which does not.

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 July 06 11:29 BST (UK) »
Valda & Trish thank you very very much for your help.

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 05 July 06 10:42 BST (UK) »
Suzard - thank you very much for the information you have looked up - much arppreciated