Searching UREN family

[deb usa]

 

Hiya CP

Well I have been searching for your Grace Martin Uren, daughter of Enoch and Mary Uren, b abt 1831...as you had said that you needed to find her .

I went back to the 1841 census: with Enoch Uren, Mary, his wife and their children....GRACE is not with them.The only kids living with them are:
Enoch 6
john 3
Mary 4
William 2 months

So it looks like Grace martin Uren must have died young!
(there are a couple of deaths under Grace Uren before 1841 ...
Grace Uren march quarter 1839 Penzance
Grace Uren december quarter 1840 Helston)

Also living next door to Enoch in 1841:
JOHN UREN 70 farmer ...Enoch's dad?
John 30...Enoch's brother ?
Richard 15
Ann 20
Elizabeth 15
Cordelia 15
Catherine 12
and 2 servants... John Cornow and Jane bennatto?

Will carry on trying to find the others ....
Was great talking to you in chatroom last night.

take care
Deb

[cornishpasty]

G'day Deb ,

Thanks so much for that.  Yes, it appears that John Uren (70) is Enoch's father and it's great that we have found him and some more family (John's other children).  I now have another branch on my tree - whoohoo.  So exciting.  

I would say that it definitely looks like Grace died young.

The other two, John and Mary Uren (Enoch's children) are the ones I would like to find now.  These 2 did not emigrate to South Africa.

Enoch and Mary Uren also had 2 other children, Richard (b. about 1842) and Elizabeth (b. about 1844).  These children emigrated to South Africa with Mary (their mother).

Thanks for searching for me Deb.  You are just the "antz pantz".

Always great to catch up with you in the chatroom too.

Hugs
CP

[deb usa]

 

Hi
I'm still searching for you.... thought I would look a little bit further back to see if I could get more clues on the family just in case the missing John and Mary might have been living with family.

still checking it all out but I did find this ...not sure if you have it ..

MARRIAGE:
John UREN to Elizabeth WARREN
10 mar 1804 Gulval, Cornwall

On IGI :
7 march 1831 marriage ;
Enoch Warren james Uren to Mary Martin

14 dec 1837 birth;
Enoch James Uren
parents : Enoch Warren James Uren  and Mary

I know you had the details of the  above ... but  I  wanted to add the 'WARREN' bit to his name . Most probably you have all this already !!~

deb

[deb usa]

back.......

Just rechecked the 1841 census where we had Robert Uren aged 70 (Enoch's dad?) living next door to Enoch , Mary and family .... welllllllll.... living next door the Robert Uren is:

ELIZABETH WARREN 55 Lab
William Warren 15
Grace     "     12


now i am confusing myself.....  so ....
John Uren married Elizabeth Warren (see above)  in 1804 ...they had Enoch Warren James Uren in 1808. He, Enoch , then married Mary martin in 1831 and had various kids including another Enoch and the missing John and Mary.

oops have just reread posts and you knew about the "warren" bit ...sorry...not paying attention  

will be quiet for a while hee hee

Deb

[cornishpasty]

Deb, this is so fantastic.  Yes, I knew about Enoch Warren James Uren having the "Warren" bit included in his name but I did not know that John, his father had married Elizabeth WARREN.  Now it all makes sense.  It's just some more much needed information.  You "star" !!!

Now ............ Elizabeth WARREN was 55 (at time of 1841 census) so she would have been born about 1786, William WARREN about 1826 and Grace WARREN about 1829.  Where does Elizabeth WARREN fit into this picture Deb?  Why is she listed as WARREN (I thought that was her maiden name), or is this her mother?  C'mon - you are the brains here LOL.  I'm confused already hahahahahahaha.

Oh ............. Deb, don't you just love this ................ I reckon we'll never go senile.  Our minds will always be forever busy in RootsChat.com.  I even dream about the family tree.

I am also intrigued by the fact that I now have John and Elizabeth Uren's children's names so I can start hunting them down too.

Catch ya later ....................

CP

[deb usa]

hi

I think maybe Elizabeth WARREN who is living next door to all the URENS in 1841  is  Mrs. Elizabeth (Warren) Urens sister-in-law(who married john Uren).   

Elizabeth Warren who married John UREN in 1804, must have had a brother who married an Elizabeth who is widowed ? .

Blimey ... rather late here and I am still confusing myself.
Let me look further...
 bbs

Deb

[deb usa]

 

Disregard all I have written ... it's too late in the evening and I have had a couple glassses of vino .... I don't even make sense to myself!!!!!!!!

LOL
 

Deb

[cornishpasty]

Hey Deb

I'm even more confused now hahahahaha  and I haven't even had any "vino de plonko".  I will go and have some brekky now and come back and try to work it all out.

I will see what else I can find !!!! 

Hope you have a good sleep.  Cheers !!!!

CP

[cornishpasty]

G'day Deb,

Great news.  Someone on Rootschat.com has sent me a PM about some living rellies in Cornwall.  This kind lady has also sent me details of the Census years 1841 - 1901 and I am "over the moon".  Silly me, I didn't think to look up the more recent Census data.

It seems that the same house (or Farm) in Penzance has been in the family for a few generations and the Urens are still living there. 

I am trying to work through all the names and trying to tie up the "Johns" and then I will be satisfied that we have found the lost "John Uren" and his family, at last.  Now to find Mary Uren - his sister.  Sheesh !!!  This is hard work.  Wish I knew what I was doing hahahahaha but with every mistake I make, I am learning a little more about how to research properly.

Catch up soon Deb.

CP