Sutherland family Caithness 1841 & 1851 census lookup plse

[ostler]

Yeah but what about Niel Sutherland's birth, how can I tell which - if any - is him?

[MonicaL]

Hi Ostler

Hard to answer that  Actual records in the period you are now looking at begin to get thin on the ground.

There may be other ways to get more information. For example, you have two people living with Angus at various points. Firstly in 1851 census entry I posted previously, you have a cousin Charlotte Gunn who could be relevant. Also, from Angus's death cert. in 1888, a cousin Alexander Sutherland from the Post Office at Dunbeath reported his death.

I've found the cousin, the Post Master at Dunbeath on the 1881 Census. From that entry I think I have found cousin Alexander and family in the 1851/61 Censuses:

1851:

Alexander Sutherland    36, merchant grocer, b. Brundall
Mary Sutherland    32, b. Latheron
Alexander Sutherland    3 b. Brundall
Christian Sutherland    2 b. Brundall
William Sutherland    1 b. Brundall
Donald Gunn*    13, nephew, b. Brundall
Mary Sutherland    20, servant

Address: Balnabruich, Latheron

* Gunn name once more

And in 1861:

Alex Sutherland   45, Postmaster
Meary Sutherland   40
Alex Sutherland     13
Christina Sutherland    12
William Sutherland    10
Robert Sutherland    9
James Sutherland    8
Lucy Sutherland    7
Neil Sutherland    3

Address:  Balnabruich Or Dunbeath, Latheron


Just some thoughts which may help 

Regards.

Monica





   

[ostler]

I just realised that Angus' second wife Janet Sutherland's (née Sutherland) mother was Catherine Gunn. The plot thickens!

[ostler]

Then on the Mormons' site I discovered Katharine Gunn married an Alexander Sutherland, 9 Dec 1803 in Wick.

[MonicaL]

What were the names of Janet's parents, Charlotte Gunn and ? I'm not so concerned about Charlotte showing as 'cousin' in 1851, I've seen stranger relationships to head being shown on censuses 

I looked yesterday on the 1841 census indexes for a Neil Sutherland in Latheron, and there were two. First born in 1766 living with a Mary (or was it Christina?) b. 1801 probably a daughter I thought. Another born in the 1780s (I'm doing all this from memory as you've probably gathered!) but I think he was married to a Janet Campbell and died in his 90s post official reg., father a John Sutherland.  The 1841 Census is not the most ideal to extract much detailed info from unfortunately also there's the possibility that Angus's father died pre 1841.

I think the Postmaster from Dunbeath might be a better avenue for you follow to try and find Neil Sutherland's family.

Regards.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Ostler

Long day for me today.....brain's tired. I've just remembered that the 'cousin' in 1851 was Charlotte not Catherine. I also remembered checking for marriages on IGI and there was one  for a Charlotte Gunn marrying a Hugh Bain (thinking here of Angus's mother Janet Bain).

The point to remember with IGI is that even though you are seeing similar names, they may not necessarily be 'yours' due to high frequency of particular surnames in certain counties (Sutherland in Caithness is a good example!) and as such the entries may not be relevant to your line.

Monica

[ostler]

Catherine (Katharine?) Gunn and John Sutherland, I think I've found their marriage on familysearch.org:

22 Jan 1796 in Latheron.

OK so "follow" the avenue of Angus/his wife's cousin Alexander in the post office... by doing what exactly?

[MonicaL]

Just a suggestion given the lack of info at this stage on Neil, Angus's father. If you found Alexander Sutherland's DC with parents' names, (a possible brother or sister to Neil) you may be able to find out more info on them if available than you have found to date on Neil. Sometimes when researching one person, you can find that although there is nothing on IGI about them, some of their siblings do show on the OPRs.

Monica

[ostler]

Thanks ever so much for all your help, it's most appreciated. I'll let you know how I get on.