Thanks for the response, Sorry I did not realise the age of the post. These strutts are alsonot in my direct line of descent but my Great grandmothers great grandfather was John Valentine Rolfe whose sister was Mary Ann Strutt and was mentioned in his will and we have been able to use this strutt family as a catalyst or carrier to take the family back.
So what you are telling me is that there were two Mary Anns who married a Joseph Strutt the firsst the son of the author and the second is the Recird Keeper to the duke of Northumberland. (Which one of these two is the parents of Jemima and Rachel).
I can also add a third. Mary Ann Rolfe, daughter of John Valentine Rolfe married Joseph Strutt her cousin who was a surgeon. (at the same time, there was Mary Ann Strutt the mother in law, Mary Ann Strutt the sister in law, and eventually mary Ann Strutt the daughter)
The reason believed he was an MP was that there was liste in an 1818? directory that listed an MP in Isleworth called Joseph Strutt and I have found there have been two and three Joseph Strut MP's around that time and one of whom was called Joseph Holden Strutt
There have been a numbner of reasons I have been trying to follow this family back. We have hit a brick wall with the Rolfes, both Johns census dfata and the earlier census for mary Ann Strutt show them as coming from Whitechapel but we cannot get a handle on what record is them. The last census for mary Ann was a complete change from the previous census data. Given the close relationship of the Strutts and the Rolfes, I was hoping if we found one we could find the other.
The other question that you may be able to help with is a mystery regarding John Valentine Rolfe. We have what we think is his marriage where he marreid an Elizabeth Smith and in his marriage certificate and his marriage license (which his wife obtained funnily enough). On both, his profession is given as "Servant to Mr Diball". Yet despite being a servant, he later owned significant property, was lsited in a Directory under gentry and left a large amount of money including a groupmof houses and shares according to his will and death duties.
We also know that after Joseph Strutt died, the Strutt family lost there income fairly quickly and the house at Gunnersbury place was owned by John V. Rolfe George the youngest ended up in the workhouse. If Joseph Strutt was the record keeper to the Duke, that could explain this, that John met someone through his brother in law.
Any ifnormation you can give would be appreciative.
Yes I was aware of the Switzerland connection with the second marriage. There is also another second puzzling link. One of the Jemima and Rachels brothers was named hamel Ingold Strutt. He ended up in the Prussian navy and also in the admiralty. Ingold and Hamel are swiss names. The family had a habit of nameing people after suignificant people and family so there is some large mystery to be discovered there
Thanks