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Yeovil, lookup
« on: Saturday 08 July 06 10:57 BST (UK) »
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Can anyone help me, I am looking for any information on my grandfather Edward George Stevens born 11th Aug 1902 Yeovil, Somerset, married to Emily May Knight in Andover,Hampshire 27th Feb 1925. Any information on him and his family would be very grateful.
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Re: Yeovil, lookup
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 July 06 18:36 BST (UK) »
do you have his marriage certificate which would give his father's name and occupation? That would give us something to search in the 1901 census. Or even the names of any older brothers and sisters?
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Yeovil, lookup
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 July 06 18:54 BST (UK) »
Hi

The only information I have is that Edward George father was a George Stevens born in Yeovil and was married to a Miss Jane Elizabeth Smith.

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Re: Yeovil, lookup
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 July 06 22:30 BST (UK) »
this looks a possibility
1901 39 Huish, Yeovil RG13/2301 folio 12 pg 66
George Stevens head mar 24 Signwriter & gravier(?) b. Hants, Andover
Elizabeth J wife mar 28 b. Dorset, Norton
Albert G Smith brother-in-law u 24 mason's labourer b. Dorset, Norton
Fred Smith brother-in-law 18 u 18 groom b. Montacute, Somerset

possible marriage 4Q 1897 Andover vol 2c pg 481 George Stevens and Elizabeth Jane Smith on the same page.

I'm having problems finding any of these Smiths on an earlier census, but the Stevens family are reasonably easy to follow but you would need to get the marriage certificate to confirm Mr Stevens senior's name and occupation.

1891 20 Portland St, Andover RG12/964 folio 94 pg 28
Henry G Stevens head mar 45 house painter b. Wilts, Hindon
Rachel wife 46 b. Hants, Vernham
George son 14 house painter b. Andover
William son 12 scholar b. Andover
Mary dau 6 b. Andover
Fred son 3 b. Andover

1881 18 Eastfield Buildings, Andover RG11/1263 folio 40 pg 24
Henry G Stevens head mar 30 housepainter b. Wilts, Hindon
Rachel wife 31 b. Vernham
Ellen dau 9 b. Andover
George son 5 b. Andover
William son 3 b. Andover

1871 Mud Town (?), Andover RG10/1243 folio 45 pg 37
Henry G Stevens head mar 24 painter b. Wilts, Hindon
Rachel wife 27 b. Hants, Vernham Dean

possible marriage Andover 1Q 1870 vol 2c pg 287 Henry George Stephens and Rachel Davis on same page

1861 Hindon RG9/1322 folio 9 pg 12
William Stevens head mar 64 ag lab
Rachell wife 54
Levi 24 ag lab
Henry 13 ag lab
all born Hindon

1851 Hindon HO107/1849 folio 339 pg 31
Williams Stevens head mar 52 ag lab
Rachel wife 45
Levi son 15 ag lab
Elizabeth dau 12 scholar
Caroline dau 9
Sophia dau 7
Jane dau 5
Henry G son 3
all born Hindon

1841 Hindon HO107/1174/6 folio 6 pg 7
William Stevens 40 ag lab
Rachael 35
Harriett 15
Thomas 10
James 10
Ann 5
Margaret 5
Levi 5
Elizabeth 4
Caroline 1 month(?)
think the enumerator was over-keen with the rounding down - unless they did have twins and triplets of course!

marriage certificates and a birth certificate or two needed to confirm all of this, but it should give you something to get started on.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Yeovil, lookup
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 July 06 23:42 BST (UK) »
birth of Edward George Stevens registered Yeovil 3Q 1902 vol 5c pg 370
probable birth reg for George Stevens Andover 1Q 1876 vol 2c pg 226
probable birth reg for Henry George Stevens 4Q 1847 Tisbury vol 8 pg 355 (not entirely sure of page number and have looked at 2 versions of GRO)

Henry George Stevens son of William Stephens married Rachel Davis on 22/3/1870 at Vernhams Dean

Rachel daughter of George and Ann Davis baptised 20/8/1843 at Vernhams Dean

William Steevens married Rachel Day 9/2/1825 East Knoyle
These last 3 extracted IGI records and so reasonably reliable

1851 Row(?), Vernhams Dean HO107/1683 folio 580 pg 16
George Davis head mar 45 Blacksmith(I think) and farrier b. Vernhams Dean
Ann wife 51 b. Wilts, Chute
Mary Ann dau 16 b. Wilts, Chute
James son 14 b. Wilts, Chute
Betsy dau 12 b. Wilts, Chute
George son 10 b. Vernhams
Rachel dau 8 b. Vernhams
Thomas son 6 scholar b. Vernhams
Frederick son 2 scholar b. Vernhams

1861 Rachel Davis house servant in the Rectory at Linkenholt RG9/716 folio 58 pg 1

1841 Vernhams Dean, HO107/384/14 folio 4 pg 3
George Davis 35 Blacksmith
Ann 40
Mary 6
James 4
Elizabeth 3
George 7 months
all born in county except Ann, so I checked some of the baptisms on the IGI and Mary Ann and James were baptised in Vernhams Dean. 
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Yeovil, lookup
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 July 06 00:17 BST (UK) »
think I've found your Smiths, but will post after a night's sleep to lessen typos.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Yeovil, lookup
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 July 06 09:38 BST (UK) »
Hi osprey

Thank you so much for the work and the help you have given you.

Very grateful

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Re: Yeovil, lookup
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 July 06 10:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Osprey

The information you sent me, you have got the right Stevens. I looked back on my grandfather birth certificate he did live at 39 Huish, Yeovil. Just for your information I am one of triplets

thanks again for your work and help.
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 July 06 11:38 BST (UK) »
Hello again,

my comment about triplets was tongue in cheek as in the 1841 census, ages over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5 years. Some enumerators didn't do this and some went above and beyond and rounded everything. I have a case of this in my family in Chepstow where it looked like 3 sets of twins at 15,10 and 5. It becomes obvious from later census entries that these ages weren't correct. Anyway, I can't imagine what the odds must be against having 3 sets of twins exactly 5 years apart!

Onto the Smiths. I couldn't find a parish in Dorset to match the place of birth for Elizabeth from the 1901 and then realised it was Porton, not Norton(and should be spelt Poorton). This led me to

1881 Lower Town, Montacute, Somerset RG11/2391 folio 137 pg 2
Abel Smith head mar 35 shepherd b. Dorset, Poorton
Ann wife 34
Lot son 9 scholar
Elisabeth dau 8 scholar
Robert son 4 scholar
Louisa dau 2
Abel son 11 months b. Montacute
(just realised, I didn't note all the places of birth, but I think they were all Poorton) Montacute explains Fred's place of birth as given in 1901.

1891 Ballcoombe, Thurluxton, Somerset RG12/1881 folio 97a pg 12
Abel Smith head mar 45 shepherd b. Frome Vauchurch
Ann Jane wife 44 b. South Poorton
Lot son 19 labourer b. South Poorton
Robert son 14 labourer b. Longlands(?)
Luesa dau 12 scholar b. Longlands
Fred son 7 scholar b. Longlands
William son 4 scholar b. W. Monkton

18 Crescent, Taunton RG12/1875 folio 18 pg 30
Elizabeth J Smith s 18 general servant b. Dorset, Poorton
in household of John Pridham, Professor of Music

1871 North Poorton, Dorset RG10/2026 folio 96 pg 1
John Gale head mar 78 pauper b. N. Poorton
Jane wife mar 83 pauper b. Mapperton
Abel Smith grandson mar 25 ag lab b. Downfrome(?)
Ann granddaughter mar 24 b. Poorton
Mary A great granddaughter 1 b. Poorton
(first time I've seen ggranddaughter on a census!)

there is this marriage Beaminster 3Q 1869 vol 5a pg 693 Abel Smith and Ann Jane Gale on same page

1861 Pond Ground, Wynford Eagle, Dorset RG9/1356 folio 52 pg 1
Robert Smith head mar 65 b. Wynford Eagle
Mary Ann wife 43 outdoor servant b. Beaminster
Abel son 15 shepherd b. Frome Vauchurch

1851 Wynford Eagle, Dorset  HO107/1858 folio 527 pg 7
Robert Smith head mar 55 farm labourer b. Wynford Eagle
Mary Ann wife 33 b. Beaminster
Abel son 5 scholar b. Froom Vauchurch
Jane Dun visitor 13 scholar

The only real problem in all of this is Robert Smith in 1881 and 1891 becoming Albert in 1901. This could be his birth Robert George Smith Beaminster 2Q 1876 vol 5a pg 395 which accounts for his middle initial in 1901. Perhaps he didn't like Robert (after Grandad) and changed it or perhaps the enumerator couldn't read his own writing and Robert became Albert. That's not beyond the bounds of possibility. It looks like the brothers moved in the newly weds because their parents moved back to Dorset

1901 Pitmans Leaze, Thornford, Dorset RG13/2006 folio 3 pg 36
Abel Smith head mar 54 shepherd b. Frome Vauchurch
Ann J wife 58 b. North Poorton
Louisa A dau 22 b. Longbredy
William son 14 b. Som, W. Monkton
Arthur C son 8 b. Som, W. Monkton

possiblity for Elizabeth's birth Beaminster 1Q 1873 Elizabeth Jane Smith vol 5a pg 399.

Thank goodness for Mr Smith being called Abel or this would have been very much harder. This is, of course, dependent on the marriage certificate confirming fathers' names and occupations for Mr Smith and Mr Stevens, but places of birth look ok for the Smiths. There was another George Stevens born in Andover at the right time, but I went with the one who was a house painter aged 14 and became a sign-writer as this seemed a more logical progression than the other one who had moved to Basingstoke.

Hope this helps
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb