help to read this please

[charmedc]

Hello - I have tried and tried to read this can anyone help me
kindest regards
Jacki

[Isles]

Hi all,

I know we all like a challenge but  I downloaded a certificate from SP which was even more illegible than Jacki's.  Rather than strain her eyes I have advised her to do what I did, and  contact SP who will send a perfectly legible copy.

Isles.

[SusanBuck]

Ok this is my effort, blimey that's hard on the peepers!

1863 On the fifth (or sixth) day of June, At St Mary’s Chapel M---------- Dundee Matrimony according to the terms of the Roman Catholic Church.

Signed by Mark
Patrick Gillins (< his mark)
A McDonald Witness
James McCabe Witness
G---- Labourer Bachelor

Signed by Mark
Mary Mc------ ( x her mark)
A McDonald Witness
James McCabe Witness
Mill Worker Spinster

25
20

Merry or Kerry or Ferry road, Dundee
Merry or Kerry or Ferry road, Dundee


Micahel Gillins, Labourer
Mary Gillins, ---------- deceased
James McG---, Labourer, desceased,
Ann McG---, ------- deceased


Signed A--- McDonald, Cath Clergyman
Signed James McCabe, Witness
Margaret Gettins (x her mark)
A McDonald, Witness
J McCabe Witness

1863 June 9th ---Dundee

H Robertson Registrar

[Gadget]

Well I got as far as the first column  :

6th or 9th June 1863 at St Mary's Chapel, xxxxx, Dundee, after banns according to the forms of the Roman Catholic Church

Then the second column threw me ? mark ? Derek Gittins......................

So, I think it is a do what Isles says .

Gadget

[runner]

Hi Jacki

Follow Isles' sensible advice and you will get a much better copy quite quickly from SP.

While you wait what I could make out was
Where & when
1863            
on the sixth day of June   
At St Mary’s Chapel                     
In the forms of the                  
Roman Catholic    
Church

Names of bride & Groom      Age      Where born

signed by mark
his X mark
?       ?Gillens            25          ?
A McDonald  Witness               Dundee
James  ?
? labourer  Batchelor

signed by mark
     her X mark
Mary    ?            20         ?
A McDonald Witness               Dundee
James Mc ?   Witness
Mill Worker   Spinster

Parents
His
Michael Gillins
Labourer
Mary Gillins
M.S.   ?
Hers

James McGlone
Labourer deceased
Ann McGlone
M.S. Cherry  deceased

Archd McDonald
   ?    Clergyman
signed
James McG  ?
Witness
Margaret      ?
   Her  X mark
A McDonald  witness
J McCabe   witness

I have seen worse certificates but that defied all efforts using negative images, and all the other tools in the Irfan box.
And defeated some of the best readers
Russell

[SusanBuck]

I agree with Gadgets translation: it's not Matrimony it is After banns according to the terms of the Roman Catholic Church.

Sue

[SusanBuck]

Jacki, how close are we on the Bride and groom's names, do you know their names

[avm228]

...St Mary's Chapel, Maxwelltown, Dundee

Anna

[SusanBuck]

 I think the Bride's name Mary McGlone. So parents are also McGlone.