Smalley people - HALLSWORTH; CRESWELL; ROE; WOOLLANDS; WOOLLEY et al

[dabs0]

Ooops Sorry Pena, should have been more specific! 

I was relating my post to your Denby Cresswells as my son's paternal line also decends from that line. \i appreciate what you mean about the problems though. Not an easy family!

Debbie

[penna]

That's OK Debbie 

There has been a lot of detectective work needed to piece together these Smalley families but the Cresswells are really the worst!
For such a prolific family, there is a distinct lack of clues.
There was a definite Smalley Cresswell family but so far I have two sections - John c. 1770 and Samuel c. 1740 but I haven't been able to link them up yet.

I have just received a little information, Kerry's version, of the Denby Cresswells, headed by Robert c. 1600. I haven't begun working on it yet but it is not looking promising at the moment.

As you say, not an easy family!

[penna]

I have just uploaded the last of the current batch of Smalley people. Those now on the website, as well the KERRY line are - BRENTNALL; HALLSWORTH; KYTE; MARTIN; ROE; ROGERS; TURTON; WOOLLEY, and WOOLLANDS.
Still working on those dratted CRESSWELLs 

[chilibear]

Hi Penna,

My mother-in-law was born in Smalley.  Her maiden name was Blakey.  She is related to the following people also from Smalley:  William Ottwell, b ca 1798; Mary Eley, born ca 1885, Lucy Blakey, b 1908; Hugh Blakey, born ca 1845 (in Horsley Woodhouse) and his wife Sarah Mellor, born ca 1847; Octavia Woolley, born ca 1877.

Many members of the family also lived in Marlpool and Horsley Woodhouse, or even moved between them.

Are there any links with your families.

I have one particular question I should like answered.  William Ottwell was an uncle to Hugh Blakey (according to census records), but I do not know how?

Chilibear.

[penna]

Hi chilibear,

Sorry for the delay in responding but I have been working on your queries.

I think I have solved Octavia Jane; Rev Kerry had identified her, and I had her on the 1881 census but I hadn't put the pieces together before.

She is the daughter of Sarah Moss nee Kyte, previously married to Charles Woolley.


I have updated the database but not loaded it to the webspace yet; I can send you the details if you don't want to wait <g>

As to the Blakeys, I have William Ottewell but as yet don't have the connection; any chance of more clues about the Blakeys?

[penna]

Got it! Just found the marriage of Octavia Jane and Hugh Blakey, now I see the connection.
Don't you just love it when it all comes together!

Still working on the rest....

[penna]

I have one particular question I should like answered.  William Ottwell was an uncle to Hugh Blakey (according to census records), but I do not know how?

Chilibear.

Hi Chilibear - if you are around.
I still can't answer this query 
Despite searching everything, Hugh & Charles suddenly appear in 1861 as nephews, with no leads as to their origins.

However, everything else seems to have fallen into place; I will upload the new Woolley pages when I can.

For all those Cresswell researchers, I have discovered yet another line that goes nowhere, this time linked to the Woolley line 

[chilibear]

Hi Penna,

Thanks for your time.  My initial query was a little random; I was just curious to know if you knew of any of these people.  I had come across your Smalley pages and found them really interesting - my mother-in-law was amazed that her little village is on the Internet!  I cannot wait to see the additions to your pages.  By the way, Octavia Woolley's husband Hugh, was the son of the Hugh who is the nephew of William Ottewell.  Hugh, senior had a twin brother Charles.

I had found William Ottewell on your website some time ago, but really cannot work out the link.  Hugh and Charles Blakey seem to have been brought up by William and Ann Ottewell.  However, the information on your website suggests that none of the siblings of William married a Blakey.

Maybe they were connected through the twins mother.  I have another posting asking specifically about Hugh and Charles Blakey.  From this I have established that their mother was Mary (surname unknown) and had a couple of daughters.  She died before 1851.  I have ordered her death certificate and the birth and marriage certificates of Charles Blakey on the off-chance that there is a clue there.  There father was Charles Hugh Blakey and that is all I know about him!

Did William's wife, Ann a sister, Mary?

Also in 1841, William and Ann Ottewell are at the same address as an Ann Blakey, aged 4.  However, I do not know who she is either.  I do not think that she is a daughter of Charles Hugh and Mary Blakey.

So clearly there is some connection between the Ottewell and Blakey families, but I have no idea what it is.

Chilibear

[chilibear]

Hi Penna,

My other post is called "Blakey family on 1851 census" if you want to look.

Chilibear.