SILVEY - Orphan? How to proceed?

[erica lyn]

Hello, I have the following information for a Thomas William Silvey.

1891 Census
Thomas W Silney 23 Colliery Weighman
Emily Silney 22
Living Town St. Barwick in Elmet

1901 Census
Thomas W Silvey Head 33 Colliery Weighman Born: Yorks Doncaster
Emily Silvey Wife 32 Born: Yorks Thorner
+ 2 children.  Living Back Lane, Barwick in Elmet

Marriage Jan 1891 Thomas William Silvey 23 to Emily Nettleton 22 at Barwick in Elmet.
Thomas is a batchelor with profession of weighman and residing in Laverack.

The marriage certificate has no fathers or mothers name for Thomas, and both witnesses are Emily's relations.  I have not been able to find Thomas on the 1881 or 1871 census.

Any suggestions?

[PaulineJ]

Search the GRO birth indexes?

Pauline

[sarah e]

Ooo I like this one

Checked the census first, nothing.
Checked FreeBMD, nothing.
Checked images of BMD 1867 - 1870, nothing
Checked census again using various ways including Thomas W, bn 1869 (give or take a year), Doncaster. This coughed up a couple of answers including Thomas W Goodhall, bn 1868 Doncaster, living Barwick in Elmet !!!!!!!!!! Opened it up

1881 RG11/4710
Folio 103
Page 1

Laverack Road, Barwick in Elmet, Yorkshire.
John H Goodhall, head, married, 31, coal miner, bn Laverack.
Sarah A, wife, married, 31, bn Doncaster.
Thomas W, son, single, 13, coal miner, bn Doncaster.
Sarah A, daugher, 10, scholar, bn Garforth.
John James, son, 7, scholar, bn Laverack.
Alice, daughter, 4, scholar, bn Laverack.
Richard, son, 3, bn Laverack.
Lillie, daughter, 11 months, bn Laverack.
John Silvey, boarder, married, 26, coal miner, bn Doncaster.

Not sure where this leaves you but I have found the Goodhalls in 1871 and then the entire family just disappear.

regards, Sarah

[CatOne]

This seems to be the family in 1891......

1891 RG12/3879 Folio 110 Page 13
Laverack, Barwick in Elmet, Yorks
John H Goodall 41 Colliery Lamp Keeper (Coal M written above) Laverack Yorks
Sarah Ann 41 Winterton Lincs
John James 16 Bricklayers Labourer Laverack
Richard 13 Scholar Laverack
Lillie 10 Scholar Laverack
Henry 8 Scholar Laverack
Walter 1 Laverack
+ boarder William Hardisty 22 Ag Lab Eston Yorks

A couple of other Goodall familys are also living next door

[CatOne]

Theres also this family of Silveys on 1871, dont know where they tie in but they must somewhere 

RG10/4718 Folio 86 Page 15
10 Reasbecks? Yard, Doncaster, Yorks
James Silvey 45 Licenced Hawker Doncaster
Ann 45 Winterton, Lincs
James 29 Licenced Hawker Doncaster
Charlotte 11 Scholar Doncaster
Henry 8 Scholar Doncaster

Regards
Catherine

[CatOne]

This is the same family in 1851, transcribed as Silverg from Winlerbottom!

HO107/2347 Folio 329 Page 32
Laverick Yd, Doncaster, Yorks
James 27 Labourer Yorks Doncaster
Ann 24 Lincs Winterton
James 6 Lincs Winterton
Mary? 2 Lincs Winterton

Looking for marriages to try and connect the families now..... 

[CatOne]

Marriage - John Henry Goodall and Sarah Ann Silvey March 1870 Tadcaster Vol 9c Page 707

[erica lyn]

Wow, you guys are amazing.

I thought I'd searched the census really well, covering as many variations of Silvey as I could think of, never imagined he might have a completely different surname! I guess I still have alot of learning to do

Thanks for all your help, I shall now investigate all this new information.

[erica lyn]

This seems to be throwing up more questions than answers.

Focusing on Sarah Ann Silvey, as I can find no birth record of Thomas William, she could be his mother, giving birth two years before she married John H Goodall.  I searched the BMD indexes for a Sarah Ann Silvey between 1849-1851. 

Silvey Sarah Ann Birth Dec 1849 Leeds

This leaves me wondering where Winterton, Lincs comes into this where she states as her birth place in the census 1871 and 1891.

I tried also to find her on the 1861 census, before her marriage, but no luck.    More investigating to be done!