Victoria,
Here's the post I was trying to send you. The Moderator has explained how to get around the problem. As agreed this ost is "for the record" in case anyone comes along looking for info/can provide info on the Hubbards.
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Victoria,
Thanks for the additional info. I'm writing a book on personalities involved with the Thames sailing barge world. I've got a skeleton entry for a "Jimmy Hubbard". See below:
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HUBBARD, ?. [Jimmy], (
?-?
): owner brickfield, Rainham, Kent,
?-?
; owner SB William Stone (
?),
?-?
; SB Honest Boy (1873),
?-?
; SB Dick Turpin (1870),
?-?
; SB Little Linnet (
?),
?-?
;
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The source of this info was a book published in 1980 and the author Arthur Bennettt was reminiscing. He gave no dates for Jimmy. I suspect Jimmy was probably a gs or ggs of your Richard - assuming a direct line.
Maybe the barge info I can give you will provide additional clues to help with your puzzle.
a. SB William Stone - built 1864 at Milton, Kent, rebuilt 1905
b. SB Honest Boy - built 1873 at Otterham, Kent, a stump-rigged barge of Regents Canal [London] size for Charlie Eltham, a brickmaker at Otterham. Sunk off Sheppey in 1900 after a firing practice accident with a shell from H.M.S. Hyena through her
side. Her skipper, Capt. Thomas Golding, his wife and his mate were able to take to the dinghy along with the barges dog. Rescued by SB Ellen Jane of Faversham they were put ashore at Hollowshore in Faversham Creek. The barge was eventually blown
up as it was considered a hazard to navigation.
c. SB Dick Turpin - built 1870 by Shrubsall at Otterham, Kent, for Jimmy Hubbard, a local brickmaker, 39 tons. Latterly used in the London manure trade until the 1930's. Damaged her chine badly in 1932 when she sat on the edge of a quay on a falling tide at Sharps Green, Gillingham, Kent,and was left as a hulk, derelict by 1936, subsequently broken there. Other owners include an A. Edwards, Tilbury Contracting Co., and a Mrs. Cory.
d. SB Little Linnet - built 1860 by Shrubsall's, at Rochester, Kent.
Some of these barge names may appear in Census Returns for the Hubbards over the years. They may have been crewing them and that was the intro eventually for Jimmy [who obviously made money from his brickworks] to buy them 2nd. hand. He was even
rich enough by 1870 to commission a brand new barge! None of the 4 barges above are known to survive to this day - even as hulks on the saltings.
Re farmers owning barges. Very definitely! The Thames sailing barge was the HGV of the Victorian era. Small ones were regular visitors to farm creeks in Kent, Essex & Suffolk to load root crops and haystacks straight off the river banks for shipping to major riverside towns/cities. Typically by contract - but some wealthy farmers established their own barge fleets to cut out the middlemen.
Brickmakers owning barges? Yes again. For the very same reason.
I'd be interested to know about your Hubbard barging links. If you can trace them from Richard up thro' to Jimmy you'll have an interesting line!
Regards, Mike
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