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Father not recorded
« on: Friday 13 February 04 17:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi.
Ive been doing some research into my family and have recently obtained my fathers birth certifcate. Now I can remember when he was alive that he was reluctant to talk about his father and my mother also says he never mentioned him much. Imagine my shock when I find out that the name of the father was left blank on his birth certificate (14/10/1923). He does have some surviving siblings but Im reluctant to progress any further with my research for fear of causing them any upset.
Any suggestions on how to progress would be most helpful. ???

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Re:Father not recorded
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 February 04 17:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chuck

Had the same problem with my wifes grandfather - no father named on his birth certificate of 1919.
He was one of several children, all of which had their fathers name on their certificates. We checked the Parish Registers for baptism records - again it was the same, all had fathers listed except him.
(We have got our own ideas why!)
As yet we have not got any further forward with our quest to find his father, but his wife is still alive, although in her 90's and some of his siblings are still alive who we will be meeting in the spring for the first time.  We are hoping that we can then drop hints or perhaps Nanna (his wife) might have an idea why her husband did not have a father listed, although there was one listed on his marriage certificate to Nanna in 1941.

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Re:Father not recorded
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 February 04 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi.
Ive been doing some research into my family and have recently obtained my fathers birth certifcate. Now I can remember when he was alive that he was reluctant to talk about his father and my mother also says he never mentioned him much. Imagine my shock when I find out that the name of the father was left blank on his birth certificate (14/10/1923). He does have some surviving siblings but Im reluctant to progress any further with my research for fear of causing them any upset.
Any suggestions on how to progress would be most helpful. ???

Hi Chuck,
From personal experience, I know just how difficult this is, but I think that the only way you are going to be able to proceed is to tactfully ask questions of the most approachable surviving sibling. The main reason that people do not want to discuss such events is the shame factor, try and make it obvious that your relative has no reason to feel any shame. Take it steady and good luck.

Incidently, what does your parents marriage certificate say in the father colomn?
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Julie

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Re:Father not recorded
« Reply #3 on: Friday 13 February 04 18:04 GMT (UK) »
Hello.

Its blank Im afraid. Just a line. I have just spoken to my Mother who thought that my fathers mother had been married before in the name of Brown. But I think it could be the other way round. She was a Bonner (maiden name) then Smith (first marriage?) then I suspect she married again to a Brown

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Re:Father not recorded
« Reply #4 on: Friday 13 February 04 18:06 GMT (UK) »
Sorry didnt read properly. I havent got my parents marriage certificate yet.

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Re:Father not recorded
« Reply #5 on: Friday 13 February 04 19:55 GMT (UK) »
Are you saying that your father was born during the time that his mother was not married, between 1st and 2nd husband? Or is his birth close enough to the 2nd marriage to be the offspring of the 2nd husband and when the birth was registered the registra decided not to records the father?
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MATTHEWS, Edith married Charles JELLEY 1902 Guildford. Descendants sought!
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Re:Father not recorded
« Reply #6 on: Friday 13 February 04 22:19 GMT (UK) »
JDG.
I have no idea. As I said I believe my mother got things round the wrong way with the second marriage. Its just a hunch that I have. I spoke to her earlier and she believed that Annie Louise, my fathers mother was a Bonner then Brown then Smith. Smith being my surname. However on the birth certificate it says Bonner (Maiden) and the Mothers name as Annie Louise Smith so I deduce from that that she was a Brown in her second marriage.  

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Re:Father not recorded
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 February 04 14:49 GMT (UK) »
JDG.
I have no idea. As I said I believe my mother got things round the wrong way with the second marriage. Its just a hunch that I have. I spoke to her earlier and she believed that Annie Louise, my fathers mother was a Bonner then Brown then Smith. Smith being my surname. However on the birth certificate it says Bonner (Maiden) and the Mothers name as Annie Louise Smith so I deduce from that that she was a Brown in her second marriage.  

Let us know how you get on and good luck!
Regards,
Julie

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ORLANDO - One Name Study (everywhere & especially Sutera Sicily) - (GOONS 3925)
BUDD (Puttenham Surrey)
ELSTONE (Bramshott Hampshire)
GOUCHER (Scarcliffe Derbyshire)
MATTHEWS, Edith married Charles JELLEY 1902 Guildford. Descendants sought!
WORSHIP - One Name Study (especially Huntingdonshire)- (GOONS 3925)
BUTCHER - One Name Study (especially Wonersh Surrey) - (GOONS 3925)
Puttenham Surrey - One Place Study
Sutera Sicily - One Place Study