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Re: Inverness....McLennan
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 July 06 14:43 BST (UK) »
I've just been looking in Kiltarlity and find most of them are McLeans - no McLennans - nearest a McKinnon. Could the family have moved away by then?

From my local history reading, I know that there were regular famines and, of course, the Clearances.

Not sure what else to suggest.

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Re: Inverness....McLennan
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 30 July 06 09:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

ooooooo, it's so frustrating! Not sure whether they had moved, but it is pssible. If it is, as you suggest, that they moved because of the famines and clearances, could he be on his own?

I have found a John Mclennan on his own, living with the McBean family, in Kilmallie. On the 1841 census.  Again, I apologise for the lack of my geography!

Or as a long shot it could be the other family in Harris !!!

Thanks for the time you have spent looking for me,

Regards,

Red   :)
MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs

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Re: Inverness....McLennan
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 30 July 06 09:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Red

If he was born in the time period that you suggest, I think he might have been too young to be away from the family. It is possible that he could have been with other relatives though, for one reason or another.

I've just re-read your first message. I see that you have him in 1869 and, I assume, from then onwards. Have you got him in the 1861 and 1851 censuses. Where was he then? It is better to get information from them than go straight to the 1841.

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Re: Inverness....McLennan
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 30 July 06 10:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

in 1869 John married Eliza Whittaker, from Ireland, in a Presbyterian church in Liverpool, I have the cert.

I have them both with their children on 1881, 1891 and 1901 census. They where in Liverpool then. Although married in Liverpool, I can't find them on the 1871 census. But, have found wrong spellings of the surname on 1881 and 1901 census. It could be the reason I havn't found them yet on the 1871 census yet.

He was a labourer on the wedding cert, but on the censuses he was a smiths strike.

They had 9 children that I know of, all in Liverpool, so I don't think he came back to Scotland.

I have searched the 1861, 1851 and 1841 Scottish census with no luck on any of them !!

Thanks again,

Red   :)
MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs


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Re: Inverness....McLennan
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 30 July 06 10:46 BST (UK) »
I presume that it just says 'born Scotland' on the English censuses  :(

You don't make it clear whether you have checked the 1861 and 1851 English Censuses. it would be worthwhile, just in case he came south with his parents at an early age.

Many of my Scottish ancestors moved South or emigrated during the 1830s and 1840s.

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Re: Inverness....McLennan
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 30 July 06 10:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

it does actually say 'Inverness, Scotland' on the 1891 census.

I will now check English census for them. But, having difficulty with the change of spelling all the time !!

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MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs

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Re: Inverness....McLennan
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 30 July 06 11:25 BST (UK) »
I think you'll have to persevere with the spellings. I know about some of the forms that McLennan can come out as ::) One of my ancestors married one!

I am pretty convinced that, had John been born on Harris, he would have said so rather than 'Inverness'.

The Islanders are a proud bunch.

Good luck  :)

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Re: Inverness....McLennan
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 30 July 06 11:31 BST (UK) »

Thanks Gadget, will keep you informed of how i'm getting on.

Hey, we could be related !! My maiden name was McLennan !

Red   ;D
MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs

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Re: Inverness....McLennan
« Reply #17 on: Monday 31 July 06 10:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

I have tried all English census from 1861 backwards for John McLennan.

The only one I came up with was, John McClelland, b abt 1835, Scotland. Lodger. Liverpool. Not very conclusive, but couldn't find trace of any other !!

Red   :)
MCLENNAN - Inverness Scotland and Liverpool
WHITTAKER - Offaly Ireland
MILLER. HURST, BALL. DUTTON. BIBBY, MORGAN, GASKELL - Liverpool
ELLIS - Plymouth, Devon
COLLINS - Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
MASON. MILLER - Runcorn/Chester
ROWLAND - Widnes, Lancs.
CHARLTON - Bury, Lancs
GREGGS - Cumbria
BRISCOE - SHERLOCK - Cheshire
VOCE - Warrington, Lancs