Lost in Hull

[Sandyq]

Can anyone help please ?

On 11th April 1868  John Ingleson married Jane Wilson at Kingstone upon Hill East Riding Yorkshire, but I can not find them on the 1871 census.

Their 1st son Joseph was born at Hull in 1871
and   2nd  "   John            "              "       1873

John senior died in 1876 aged29 again Hull

i cannot find his widow or 2 sons on the 1881 census.

Would be glad of any advice please

Sandyq

[Andy001]

Do you have any of their relatives on the census's? Their name could be mistranscribed.If you have a piece number for any of their relatives and are using ancestry,you can search just that specific piece number.Try entering just a first name,then narrow it down by birth year etc
If you don't have any luck,try adjacent piece numbers,it sounds daft just looking for a John/Jane,but its surprisingly effective!!

Good Luck!

[Tati]

Hi Sandy,

Do you happen to know John or Jane's birth year or birth place?

Can't see a John/Jane couple at first sight.

Tanja 

[Sandyq]

John was born 1847 Knareborough and Jane 1851in Kingston upon Hull

Just going out now -don't want you to think I'm ignorant if I don't answer
Many thanks
Sandyq

[Tati]

Could they have had another son earlier?

1871
RG10/4791 177 16
Kingston upon Hull Holy Trinity
4 Cottage Row
Jane Ingleson, wife, mar, 20, Fisherman's wife, b. Yorks Hull
William, son, 2, b. do.
Joseph, son, 4mo, b. do.

Tanja 

[Tati]

1881
Bit of a long shot - I have yet to find the marriage...

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&ti=5538&r=5538&db=uki1881&F0=ERYRG11_4768_4772-0025

(Marshall family)
The boys' ages match and there's a large gap with the little girl. The 'J' would be an 'I' standing for Ingleson... Err, wishful thinking, perhaps 

[Tati]

Same theory part 2.
Jane didn't actually marry George Marshall (though Elizabeth Minnie B apparently was registered as a Marshall -if it's possible she was registred in Sculcoates, that is)
 
She indeed marries John William Harvey in Hull, March 1887. 

1891
RG12/2616 107 24
Clee with Weelsby, Lincolnshire*
19 Trinity Street
John William Harvey, head, 39?, Sea Engineer
Jane, wife, 40
Elizabeth, dau, 12, scholar

all born Hull.

Edit: *Interestingly, Joseph Ingleson is living in Lincolnshire in 1901, as is Sarah A Ingleson, whom I suspect to be John Thomas's wife. 

  Elizabeth Minnie B Marshall marries Walter James Ward in 1899 and Jane Harvey born Hull age 50 is visiting the couple in 1901. (She's down as married but I'm not sure that I can't see Mr Harvey with another wife  )

[Nick Carver]

Do you have an address on the birth certificate for the children? Try looking up the address in 1881 and if there is no result, move to adjacent properties. It is amazing how many of my relatives lived in several different houses in the same street.

[Zephyr]

Hi Sandy

Hope you don't mind me butting in but...  was your John by any chance the son of Joseph Ingleson and Frances Harkness?  I am just starting out researching Inglesons from Farnham/Knaresborough/Leeds.  An Hannah Ingleson married into the Bardy family which is my family.  Through GenesReunited I was given the following web site: www.ullenhall85.freeserve.co.uk/WC_TOC.htm.  It is an Ingleson family tree and it is full of Inglesons.  Happy hunting!!!

Zephyr